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Old Aug 24th 2016, 12:11 PM
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Heatwaves at the end of August? No, just no. Turn that shit off now, please.
At least 5 days of >30C....

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhh.
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Heatwaves at the end of August? No, just no. Turn that shit off now, please.
At least 5 days of >30C....

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhh.
Seems like it has been a steady 30C+ here, pretty much every day since about the middle of May.

Maybe a dozen days in that time period where it hasn't hit 30C.

Definitely the hottest summer I can remember at least since 2007, which was pretty much the same as this one (9 years ago, which means it was an El Nino summer as well as this one).
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It's been a rather beastly summer, though the last week or so has mellowed out somewhat. I hope for a nice long autumn, though they say this winter will be monstrous.
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Seems like it has been a steady 30C+ here, pretty much every day since about the middle of May.

Maybe a dozen days in that time period where it hasn't hit 30C.

Definitely the hottest summer I can remember at least since 2007, which was pretty much the same as this one (9 years ago, which means it was an El Nino summer as well as this one).
FFS.

At least we have the Atlantic Ocean which saved my life once again.
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FFS.

At least we have the Atlantic Ocean which saved my life once again.
From what I've been reading, that corner of the North Atlantic is the only place on the planet that is looking at getting seriously fucking colder over the next half century as the Gulf Stream slows then shuts down. UK is forecast for having Alaska-like weather by 2050.
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From what I've been reading, that corner of the North Atlantic is the only place on the planet that is looking at getting seriously fucking colder over the next half century as the Gulf Stream slows then shuts down. UK is forecast for having Alaska-like weather by 2050.
Such predictions are almost certainly wrong. By its very nature climate change leads to less predictable patterns, no matter where or when. Even long established climatic patterns get disrupted such as this one:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/rel...ialoscillation

If anything, in the long term the pattern will be that there will be much less -if any- patterns. Unpredictable weather, atypical weather, extreme weather, etc. This is a disaster as we hugely underestimate how dependent we still are on continuous or at least quasi-continuous weather patterns. A continuous change wouldn't be that hard to deal with. But if you don't know whether there will be a blizzard or a heatwave next month, many human enterprises taken for granted will be badly disrupted, not in the least agriculture of course.

And what's worse (lel) there's another heatwave incoming here in Flanders. FFS, it's mid September soon. I should have moved to Iceland a decade ago when I could.
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Such predictions are almost certainly wrong. By its very nature climate change leads to less predictable patterns, no matter where or when. Even long established climatic patterns get disrupted such as this one:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/rel...ialoscillation

If anything, in the long term the pattern will be that there will be much less -if any- patterns. Unpredictable weather, atypical weather, extreme weather, etc. This is a disaster as we hugely underestimate how dependent we still are on continuous or at least quasi-continuous weather patterns. A continuous change wouldn't be that hard to deal with. But if you don't know whether there will be a blizzard or a heatwave next month, many human enterprises taken for granted will be badly disrupted, not in the least agriculture of course.

And what's worse (lel) there's another heatwave incoming here in Flanders. FFS, it's mid September soon. I should have moved to Iceland a decade ago when I could.
The Gulf Stream is shutting down.

It has apparently already declined by some 25% in the last 10 years apparently, caused mostly by melting ice in the arctic sending too much freshwater into the 'conveyer' that feeds the Gulf Stream. Eventually (within the next few decades) the Gulf Stream will just stop, as it has many times in the past. When it does so, northwestern Europe will get the climate that its latitude calls for - which at 50+ degrees latitude is a cold climate like Newfoundland, Northern Quebec, Canadian prairies or Alaska.

Newfoundland is the same latitude as England (but no Gulf Stream). Newfoundland has snow on the ground from October to May.
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The Gulf Stream is shutting down.

It has apparently already declined by some 25% in the last 10 years apparently, caused mostly by melting ice in the arctic sending too much freshwater into the 'conveyer' that feeds the Gulf Stream. Eventually (within the next few decades) the Gulf Stream will just stop, as it has many times in the past. When it does so, northwestern Europe will get the climate that its latitude calls for - which at 50+ degrees latitude is a cold climate like Newfoundland, Northern Quebec, Canadian prairies or Alaska.

Newfoundland is the same latitude as England (but no Gulf Stream). Newfoundland has snow on the ground from October to May.
Yes, but that's just one of many fundamental systems which are changing or breaking up. The overall effect of all those can not be calculated due to the inherent and defining nature of chaos (technical term), viz. the so-called 'sensitive dependency on initial conditions'. A tenth of a degree difference in the ocean temperature at a certain spot might be the difference between the long term establishment of an equatorial flow or a polar one.
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Yes, but that's just one of many fundamental systems which are changing or breaking up. The overall effect of all those can not be calculated due to the inherent and defining nature of chaos (technical term), viz. the so-called 'sensitive dependency on initial conditions'. A tenth of a degree difference in the ocean temperature at a certain spot might be the difference between the long term establishment of an equatorial flow or a polar one.
Well sure. No one can really know what world global climate patterns are going to be like 30 or 50 years from now. All we have is some data and lots of computer models. Anything is possible. New data and new models pop up everyday.

But no matter what else is happening, N-W Europe has this one major 'cooling trend' heading its way. It might be neutralized by a general 'warming trend', or it might not be.

And I haven't heard about any kind of 'future cooling trend' predicted for anywhere else on the planet. This one does seem quite possible within the realms of predictable science and present known trends.
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Last two weeks has been spectacularly warm, sunny and beautiful weather around here.
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