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Old Nov 14th 2016, 08:31 PM
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Time for a new thread I'd say and what else could I call it?

Something's bugging me. I heard that Trump will put pretty much his whole family in the cabinet and I wondered whether the US doesn't have laws against nepotism. Turns out it does:

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5 U.S. Code § 3110 - Employment of relatives; restrictions

Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

(a) For the purpose of this section—

(1) “agency” means—

(A) an Executive agency;
(B) an office, agency, or other establishment in the legislative branch;
(C) an office, agency, or other establishment in the judicial branch; and
(D) the government of the District of Columbia;

(2) “public official” means an officer (including the President and a Member of Congress), a member of the uniformed service, an employee and any other individual, in whom is vested the authority by law, rule, or regulation, or to whom the authority has been delegated, to appoint, employ, promote, or advance individuals, or to recommend individuals for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement in connection with employment in an agency; and

(3) “relative” means, with respect to a public official, an individual who is related to the public official as father, mother, son, daughter, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, first cousin, nephew, niece, husband, wife, father-in-law, mother-in-law, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, stepfather, stepmother, stepson, stepdaughter, stepbrother, stepsister, half brother, or half sister.

(b) A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official. An individual may not be appointed, employed, promoted, or advanced in or to a civilian position in an agency if such appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement has been advocated by a public official, serving in or exercising jurisdiction or control over the agency, who is a relative of the individual.

(c) An individual appointed, employed, promoted, or advanced in violation of this section is not entitled to pay, and money may not be paid from the Treasury as pay to an individual so appointed, employed, promoted, or advanced.

(d) The Office of Personnel Management may prescribe regulations authorizing the temporary employment, in the event of emergencies resulting from natural disasters or similar unforeseen events or circumstances, of individuals whose employment would otherwise be prohibited by this section.

(e) This section shall not be construed to prohibit the appointment of an individual who is a preference eligible in any case in which the passing over of that individual on a certificate of eligibles furnished under section 3317(a) of this title will result in the selection for appointment of an individual who is not a preference eligible.
So, how can he accommodate his litter like he intends to do? Does this law not 'count' for the president?
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Time for a new thread I'd say and what else could I call it?

Something's bugging me. I heard that Trump will put pretty much his whole family in the cabinet and I wondered whether the US doesn't have laws against nepotism. Turns out it does:



So, how can he accommodate his litter like he intends to do? Does this law not 'count' for the president?
In short, yes. You may remember that John F. Kennedy's Attorney General was his brother Robert Kennedy.

Frankly I take very minor comfort in the idea of Ivanka Trump being in the close circle, for a variety of reasons.

There are other MAJOR conflicts of interest for Trump that are, as far as I can tell, unprecedented in the modern era. He simply cannot be President. But he's going to be, because our democracy has become a fart in the wind.
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Old Nov 14th 2016, 10:20 PM
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Though now the word is that his kiddos will be "unpaid advisers" with top security clearance.

Oh, while they run his companies in a "blind trust."

Honestly, my fondest hope is that Trump's priority is personal and familial enrichment. Shit, I'll write a personal check if he just leaves me and mine the fuck alone.
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Hillary was also in charge (first health care packaged? Failed?) when Clinton was president.

How do the Americans in general feel about that, do you know?

Don't they see the conflict?
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Hillary was also in charge (first health care packaged? Failed?) when Clinton was president.

How do the Americans in general feel about that, do you know?

Don't they see the conflict?
Could you elaborate a little bit more? How do we feel about Clinton? Health care? What's the conflict?
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Old Nov 15th 2016, 05:06 PM
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Could you elaborate a little bit more? How do we feel about Clinton? Health care? What's the conflict?
Sucre will no doubt correct me if I make a wrong assumption but I think the conflict is the mere appointment of family members into the cabinet whatever their exact title or role. That's a very big no-no in most countries, even in those which are considered corrupt in any case (e.g. Italy). Appointing family members in any capacity is considered corruption ipso facto.
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Sucre will no doubt correct me if I make a wrong assumption but I think the conflict is the mere appointment of family members into the cabinet whatever their exact title or role. That's a very big no-no in most countries, even in those which are considered corrupt in any case (e.g. Italy). Appointing family members in any capacity is considered corruption ipso facto.
LOL, I have now precised what I meant.

I would say it's a no-go for the purists. Therefore tabou. The risk of a conflict of interests is higher but not necessary though ...
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What if the American comic book superhero the Flash (Barry Allen), a creation of DC Comics who exhibits superhuman speed, wanted to get admitted into Yale University (one of the most prestigious schools in the world and a member of the esteemed Ivy League)?

People ('regular' human beings) would be so excited by his incredible powers that they would naturally want to shower upon him civilization honors such as admission into Yale University!

Would we say that is some form of nepotism (or some kind of 'Babylon-esque idol worship')?

Of course, since Yale is very prestigious, they might want some kind of social presentation of the Flash's spirit-gifts (perhaps a display of Barry Allen's ability to outrun two cross-country trains simultaneously!).

Perhaps we demonize the finance-minded Trump, since our consumerism-centric and market-hypnotized geo-culture (e.g., Burger King, eBay, European Union, Wall Street, NASDAQ, NATO, etc.) makes us somewhat obsessive over profit-gauged 'intelligence.' We don't want to say things like, "Americans are expected to elect a money-monster as U.S. President!"

Then again, I don't want to be caught saying something like, "Trump is a token-elect 'finance-celebrity'!"

So how do we generate a 'Dickensian dialogue,' and should we feel motivated to be Trump's 'legal/cultural advocates' as American citizens and 'fans of capitalism'?

It's a consideration that I think will generate a great deal of discussion and will affect how historians talk about why Americans elect 'pro-culture incumbents' (is that a term?) as Presidents (e.g., Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, Lyndon Johnson, Donald Trump, etc.).


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TRUMP: You're too fast to go to Yale!
FLASH: No, no. I can teach Literature.
TRUMP: What do you know about Literature, Flash?
FLASH: Mr. President, I can teach 'systematics'-themed books.
TRUMP: Such as?
FLASH: 1984, Bartleby, Christine, The Inferno, etc.!
TRUMP: What exactly is 'systematics,' Barry?
FLASH: 'Systematics,' sir, refers to 'coordinated obedience.
TRUMP: Obedience? In terms of...government?
FLASH: Governance, the market, traffic, metaphysics, etc.
TRUMP: What do you know about metaphysics, Flash?
FLASH: I know, for example, you're concerned about eTrade ethics.
TRUMP: You mean since I'm now the President of the USA?
FLASH: Correct. ISIS hackers care about online-trading reliability.
TRUMP: You may be right. ISIS may try to destabilize eTrade!
FLASH: I could teach a course on Orwell's 1984 at Yale!
TRUMP: I see. You do seem to care about civilization 'pace.'
FLASH: That's why I'd be a great teacher!
TRUMP: Well, Barry, it's a 'civilization honor' we'd like to bestow!
FLASH: In that case, I'll start generating course outlines.
TRUMP: Be sure my daughter does well...she might attend Yale.
FLASH: I'll keep a close-eye on her, Mr. President.

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The Flash is a great show on CW/Netflix.
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I guess we are not talking about Flashman (aka Flash) here eh?
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