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Old Apr 24th 2015, 10:11 AM
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Around 300 U.S. troops from the 173rd Airborne Brigade arrived in the western Ukrainian city of Lviv last week to begin training Ukrainian National Guard forces. Part of what is being called Operation Fearless Guardian-2015, the U.S. forces were dispatched under the auspices of the Global Contingency Security Fund, created to provide security sector assistance to partner countries to help them address challenges important to U.S. security interests. The U.S. troops will remain in Ukraine for six months, providing combat and other skills training for Ukraine's newly created National Guard, which has been directly involved in much of the fighting in southeastern Ukraine's Donbas region.
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No real surprise here. US special operations troops are usually operating in several dozen countries on the planet at any given time, so there's nothing unusual going on here. This is just how the US rolls. And if the US is actually officially admitting to their existance and their role, then you can be sure they've already been there for several years already.
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Old Apr 24th 2015, 11:00 AM
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No real surprise here. US special operations troops are usually operating in several dozen countries on the planet at any given time, so there's nothing unusual going on here. This is just how the US rolls. And if the US is actually officially admitting to their existance and their role, then you can be sure they've already been there for several years already.
DNR also claimed, 3 days ago, American Academi (Blackwater) mercenaries, 70 men or so, are in the combat zone near Donetsk: https://youtu.be/LF-7BPaaZoY

On social media, I saw militia guys from over there, and supporters, talking about this. They want to capture some of the Academi people alive, "to do with them like the Iraqis in Falujah.

Seriously, this will not end well, especially for Americans if they do get captured there. On what Russian nationalists consider their ancestral land... There would be executions, nasty ones. Russians can be just as nasty as Arabs, and more so.

Bad idea, Obama. Very bad.
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Old Apr 25th 2015, 12:54 PM
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Bad idea, Obama. Very bad.
The 'deep-state' US security-state and foreign policy system operate mostly without any input from the White House or any Presidential policy support.

A determined President can really only slow down or increase such actions - he can't stop them from happening. Obama doesn't have Putin's power or authority. Obama is only one part of the US political power machine.
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The 'deep-state' US security-state and foreign policy system operate mostly without any input from the White House or any Presidential policy support.

A determined President can really only slow down or increase such actions - he can't stop them from happening. Obama doesn't have Putin's power or authority. Obama is only one part of the US political power machine.
Okay. Bad idea, "deep state". Very bad.
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The Empire Strikes Again. SSDD Different Place:

https://c4ss.org/content/43881
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The Empire Strikes Again. SSDD Different Place:

https://c4ss.org/content/43881
This shit wouldn't be so scary/stupid if it wasn't so fucking routine.
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The 'deep-state' US security-state and foreign policy system operate mostly without any input from the White House or any Presidential policy support.

A determined President can really only slow down or increase such actions - he can't stop them from happening. Obama doesn't have Putin's power or authority. Obama is only one part of the US political power machine.
Here's the military apparently countermanding Trumps wishes, like CENTCOM'S actions in Egypt against Obama's wishes:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/02/...ump-subverted/

More evidence that the Pentagon, Deep State, intelligence community, or whatever you want to call it, is out of control.
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More evidence that the Pentagon, Deep State, intelligence community, or whatever you want to call it, is out of control.
Out of control? It is quite possible that they are in control. Either way, they may [possibly] be our only defense against the chaos that Trump appears to be unleashing.
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As Commander-in-Chief will Trump be allowed to promote détente with Russia as he has advocated?

If so, when?
http://news.antiwar.com/2017/02/07/n...ussia-buildup/
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Thousands of more troops needed in Afghanistan:
http://news.antiwar.com/2017/02/09/g...n-afghanistan/
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