Home-grown national coaches

[NickKIELCEPoland]

Originally Posted by Michael

Same game.

On the world market, everything is a commodity.

Well, when all the best players immediately go and play for rich countries, I'll congratulate you on having got your wish.

When Ghana and Paraguay can no longer hope to reach quarter-finals, giving their citizens the kind of street-joy that we saw in those countries two years ago, then I'll congratulate you on having got your wish.

In short, when international football becomes like club football, then I'll congratulate you on having got your wish.

Until then, I'll enjoy it the way it is.

[Donkey]

Originally Posted by Americano

Politically correct irrelevance? An illegal immigrant being called undocumented immigrant is similar to calling a burglar an uninvited house guest.

That's a ludicrous comparison.

At any rate an immigrant is someone who comes to stay, legal status notwithstanding.

Originally Posted by Americano

Functional differences aside with legal definition being the criteria, are both not illegal?

I've used the politically correct term undocumented worker in forum threads simply because using the correct definition of illegal immigrant sends some posters off on humanitarian tangents.

No. You're simply wrong. Undocumented immigrant, undocumented alien, etc. are the correct and LEGAL definition. Talk to any immigration lawyer.

"Illegal immigrant" is a made up pejorative and its use denotes either ignorance or racism.

[NickKIELCEPoland]

Originally Posted by Donkey

"Illegal immigrant" is a made up pejorative and its use denotes either ignorance or racism.

Originally Posted by Michael

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While I'm no fan of illegal immigrants, .

???????

[Donkey]

Originally Posted by NickKIELCEPoland

Donkey, is Michael a racist or an ignoramus?

I don't think anyone on this forum is racist. There is pervasive ignorance toward the correct (legally meaningful) terms with regards to immigration. It's certainly not limited to this forum.

[NickKIELCEPoland]

Originally Posted by Donkey

I don't think anyone on this forum is racist. There is pervasive ignorance toward the correct (legally meaningful) terms with regards to immigration. It's certainly not limited to this forum.

Okay, thank you

[NickKIELCEPoland]

Originally Posted by Donkey

No. It doesn't matter. The players are from that country. The job of the coach is to bring t he best out in the players. It doesn't matter where he/she is from.

Yes, indeed, the vast majority of players are indeed from the country they represent.
There are exceptions, of course, but, as you say, the vast majority are from the country that they represent.

Long may that continue!

[Donkey]

In the grander scheme of things, it doesn't matter really one iota. However, if the goal is to have some just-for-fun representation of a given nation, it only makes sense to have the entire team be permanent residents.

Otherwise it's just international club soccer, which already exists, so what's the point?

[NickKIELCEPoland]

Originally Posted by Donkey

In the grander scheme of things, it doesn't matter really one iota. However, if the goal is to have some just-for-fun representation of a given nation, it only makes sense to have the entire team be permanent residents.

Otherwise it's just international club soccer, which already exists, so what's the point?

Exactly - it's more FUN to have the players coming from that country.
Race doesn't come into it - having grown up somewhere does.

And as you say, we've already got international club football.

[Donkey]

Originally Posted by NickKIELCEPoland

Exactly - it's more FUN to have the players coming from that country.
Race doesn't come into it - having grown up somewhere does.

Just take a look at the French national team.

[NickKIELCEPoland]

Originally Posted by Donkey

Just take a look at the French national team.

Yes, exactly - but they've grown up in France.
So anyone who calls our view on this racist, is talking rubbish.