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![]() Btw, your comments about Soros in another thread suggest to me that you are not here to engage in meaningful discussion. You are free to post what you like, but no one is required to take you seriously or reply to your posts.
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![]() Seriously, how is being asked to support an assertion you made "feeding trolls"?
I was trying to have a discussion with you on the topic. I was not in any way trolling. Is there only room for one viewpoint here, and anything else is "trolling"?
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However, the 'troll' characterization was established with your initial post in this thread and in another thread as well. Both follow the troll pattern and subsequent posts confirm it. Quote:
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So if you act like a troll, I will treat you like one (as I have been doing so).
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![]() So, how does one get removed from your "troll" list?
Perhaps I was wrong about al-Sadr. I'm certainly open to the possibility, but it is hard to discuss the issue when you make a claim, and then get the hump when asked about it. As for Soros, I was interested in seeing what WFCY thought of him in that context. Thus, I politely asked a question. I must admit, I'm a bit confused here. You make assertions, and refuse to back them up, preferring instead to call me names. What is the point of that?
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![]() Funny question that. You were on it with your very first post here. I foolishly replied to that troll post, giving you the benefit of the doubt. Your subsequent posts proved my initial assessment - I shouldn't have bothered to reply to the first inflammatory troll-post. I fed the troll and several pages later, here we are.
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This topic here is about Sadr or Iraqi politics. I don't believe you've addressed that topic at all other than to spout some vintage 2006 Bush Admin propaganda in the most inflammatory way as possible. That's trolling. I've dismissed that TIME article as bullshit propaganda that has no source, no evidence and no proof. Indeed, the article itself states that it has no evidence and no proof - just an unsourced allegation. I also followed that up with a rational assessment about the lack of probability of the 'truthfulness' of the allegation. But you just keep demanding that I justify my assertion about Bush Admin lies. That's a notorious rightwing troll-topic and one I'm not going to get into - especially with one whom I consider to be trolling in the first place. Quote:
Your post there infers that what Soros does is identical to what the Koch brothers do. That's another very common rightwing troll-topic. Quote:
Bottom line is if you don't want to be treated like a troll, don't act like a troll, repeat troll arguments or go phishing with notorious troll-topics. This forum is quite unlike most other discussion forums out there. Here you generally will find people who are quite knowledgeable about the topics they post about. People who just want to stir up 'partisan pissing matches' because it is fun are not welcome here. People who have reasonable and rational arguments, regardless of ideology, will be engaged with meaningful discussion. It really is that simple. The choice is yours. You can whine about my responses to you all you like, but I don't think that is going to get you anywhere or win you any friends. All you are doing is wearing out my patience. I prefer to discuss topics, not people and/or their hurt feelings.
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But that's not what I've asked you about. You made a very specific claim about "planted articles". When I asked you about that, you claimed you didn't want to open that "rabbit hole" - despite having been the one who opened it. Bottom line - if you cannot provide any substantiation for your claim, that's fine. You could have just admitted that rather than stoop to name-calling, though. Clearly, there is no further point in trying to engage you in any manner of discussion - you make wild claims, then get pissy when asked to back them up. I'll leave you to your intellectually incestuous "discussions" with your sycophants.
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There are lots more such articles out there. These are just a few examples of "propaganda" where actual evidence is available. I think the pattern is pretty clear. And I am not going to get into a discussion about the relative credibility of any given source listed here. These quotes are meant to be illustrative of the Bush Administration's media behavior, not an exhaustive catalog of sins.
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![]() Well and good, but none of that demonstrates that the articles I posted regarding the ethnic cleansing were "planted".
It is entirely possible al-Sadr did not direct the ethnic cleansing program. I certainly have no first hand knowledge. But is it not all possible that there was a Beckett approval? "Will no one rid me of these troublesome Sunni?" It seems odd, at least to me, that this could go on his his own back yard without his knowledge and perhaps tacit approval.
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All things considered, I'd say that trying to judge Sadr and his motives definitively (for good or ill) is risky business and the whole thing is muddled with misinformation from various sources. Personally, I look warily on any sectarian religious political figure, especially those who are closely associated with armed militia groups.
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http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/ap...acad-a30.shtml
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