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Old Feb 16th 2018, 06:25 PM
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A federal grand jury has indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities for allegedly meddling in the 2016 presidential election, charging them with conspiracy to defraud the United States, the Department of Justice announced Friday.

In addition, three defendants were charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud, and five defendants with aggravated identity theft.

“The defendants allegedly conducted what they called information warfare against the United States, with the stated goal of spreading distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general,” Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said.

The grand jury had been empaneled by special counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election as well as any possible connections between Russia and Trump campaign associates.
FBI Director Chris Wray and Rosenstein briefed President Donald Trump on the indictments at the White House on Friday morning, a White House official said.

Beginning as early as 2014, the Russian organization Internet Research Agency began operations to interfere with the US political system, including the 2016 elections, according to the indictment.

The defendants allegedly posed as US persons, created false US personas, and operated social media pages and groups designed to attract US audiences, the indictment reads.

The Internet Research Agency had a “strategic goal to sow discord in the US political system” including the election, according to the indictment.

Russians posted “derogatory information about a number of candidates,” and by mid-2016 they supported Trump and disparaged Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. They bought ads and communicated with “unwitting” people tied to Trump campaign and others to coordinate political activities.
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Well, at least this should shutup all those people (notably on the extreme right and extreme left) who have been willfully denying the possibility that the Russian government was meddling in the US 2016 election.
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Old Feb 22nd 2018, 02:03 PM
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The link below is to a debate between James Risen and Glenn Greenwald on the Trump-Russia issue.
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/21/...cb39-131804957

It's over an hour long, but I would urge anyone interested in this issue to at least watch the first five minutes of it.
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The link below is to a debate between James Risen and Glenn Greenwald on the Trump-Russia issue.
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/21/...cb39-131804957

It's over an hour long, but I would urge anyone interested in this issue to at least watch the first five minutes of it.
I much prefer actual news articles, not rightwing propaganda/opinion/editorials. That's just spin/spin/spin!

Glenn Greenwald has lost all credibility. He's just another hack now - and a particularly obnoxious one at that.
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I much prefer actual news articles, not rightwing propaganda/opinion/editorials. That's just spin/spin/spin!

Glenn Greenwald has lost all credibility. He's just another hack now - and a particularly obnoxious one at that.
If it's from the Associated Press, say, it's "an actual news article," but if Glenn Greenwald writes it in The intercept it's rightwing propaganda?

In my humble opinion you have that backwards, Michael.

Greenwald is a reporter of proven integrity who questioned the "yellow-cake uranium" and "weapons of mass destruction" and bullshit like that when everyone and his uncle were buying into it, and he's definitely left-wing, not right-wing.
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Guccifer 2.0, the “lone hacker” who took credit for providing WikiLeaks with stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee, was in fact an officer of Russia’s military intelligence directorate (GRU), The Daily Beast has learned. It’s an attribution that resulted from a fleeting but critical slip-up in GRU tradecraft.
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This is for those people who may still cling to the bizarre belief that the Russians were not fucking with the 2016 American election. Indications are that US intelligence officials have known about this since June 2016 and that Trump has been briefed about this. This puts Trump's endless and repeated assertions that the Russians were not involved in the 2016 election in a whole new light.

Btw, the "GRU" is the new name for the old KGB. Same game.
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