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Old Nov 23rd 2011, 04:13 PM
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I have no empathy for the idiots who built or bought these. Good luck to all of them, they'll need it when the heating bill forces them to foreclose. Additionally, they probably shouldn't throw any stones. (That was for you Non!)
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Old Nov 23rd 2011, 04:21 PM
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Plus they look stupid?
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Old Nov 23rd 2011, 06:37 PM
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I have no empathy for the idiots who built or bought these. Good luck to all of them, they'll need it when the heating bill forces them to foreclose. Additionally, they probably shouldn't throw any stones. (That was for you Non!)
Yes, they are throwing these glass towers up in six months. Cheap crap construction and micro-tiny spaces. Whoever is buying these things is an idiot.

That's all beside the extreme fire hazzard these buildings are. When one lives a few hundred feet above the ground, fire escape becomes a tricky issue. With old-school masonry and brick construction, fire is not a signifcant danger because each unit is self-contained and enclosed with 8 to 10 inches of concrete floor, ceiling and four walls. One can literally sit on one's couch watching tv while the apartment next door is burning to a blackened shell.

However, I first noticed a couple of years ago that when they build these new condo towers, before they put up the outer glass-wall-skin, I can see daylight right through the whole floor. That means that there is no concrete walls between the units. That means if a fire breaks out in any one unit, it could spread to engulf the whole floor since there is no firewalls to prevent it from doing so.

You couldn't pay me to live in a building like that - it is just too dangerous - regardless of the lousy energy efficiency, ever-rising condo fees and micro-tiny floor plans.
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Old Nov 23rd 2011, 06:44 PM
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Speaking of all these new condo towers going up, they are entirely filled with suburbanites who've obviously never lived in a high-rise building before. Anyone who has lived a few years in a highrise knows that dogs are don't go well with elevators.

Suffice it to say that the ONLY downside to living in a highrise building is dogs. In most older buildings, there are almost no dogs at all. In these new condos, there are hundreds of them.

It really is funny watching every new condo building replace the tiny patch of turf-grass outside the front door 3-4 times per year. THey have to because that patch of grass gets saturated with dog piss a couple hundred times a day which kills the grass almost instantly they lay it down. Of course, being in the city, there are no patches of the neighbor's grass to let your dog piss on. It is all concrete and pavement everywhere.

Not to mention that they usually have to strip the nice carpets out of the elevators in these luxury buildings because it gets stained by dog piss pretty much daily and makes the place smell like a ghetto shithole building.

Bottom line is that high rise buildings are no place to leave dogs locked up for 10 hours a day (barking all day because they are lonely and can hear other people moving around nearby). Dog fights in the elevators is just added entertainment especially with the self-entitled types who believe that leash laws only apply to 'other people'.
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Old Nov 23rd 2011, 07:53 PM
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Having a dog is one of the reasons I would like to have a house with land. Actually what I would really like to have is a warehouse with land.

The real-estate market in Downtown Cleveland is still in the toilet, but when it rebounds there are hundreds of gorgeous loft units in beautiful old buildings. So overpriced right now that they might as well be off the market.
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I have no empathy for the idiots who built or bought these. Good luck to all of them, they'll need it when the heating bill forces them to foreclose. Additionally, they probably shouldn't throw any stones. (That was for you Non!)
Not much worse than stick (wood) houses/condos in the US. Many states still have building codes of 2x4 wall construction while most older standard homes/condos are all 2x4 construction. Older commercial buildings aren't any better. Once it gets cold brick/cement exterior walls (no air pockets to heat or cool) absorb heat or cold just like glass.

When it comes to heating/cooling, the era of cheap energy will be a curse to many.
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