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Old Oct 9th 2015, 09:29 AM
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I can but pray for the men going there. Good luck to them, stay safe, return with victory.
The US media kept parroting the State Dept./CIA line that Assad was as bad as Hitler, and then that ISIS is worse than the NAZIs, and now we know what a load of crap that all is.

Neither the Russians, the Germans, or US soldiers and mercenaries are going into the Mid-East and shooting and bombing people, and destroying their infrastructure, for their own good.

After you have a few toasts to a glorious victory, what then? How long does that victory last?
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Old Oct 9th 2015, 05:27 PM
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US to abandon training new Syria rebel groups

The US is to end its efforts to train new Syrian rebel forces and says it will shift to providing equipment and weapons to existing forces.

Its $500m (326m) programme was heavily criticised after it emerged that US-trained rebels had handed vehicles and ammunition over to extremists.

It emerged last month that only four or five of the fighters were in Syria.

The programme had aimed to train and equip 5,400 fighters this year and a further 15,000 in 2016.
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This is why I say the US position on Syria is not viable. It is dysfunctional when it ends up paying for arms going to its opponents.
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Old Oct 10th 2015, 07:32 PM
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Syrian archbishops support Russian military intervention in civil war
BY SIMON CALDWELL, CATHOLIC NEWS SERVICE
October 9, 2015

MANCHESTER, England - A Syrian archbishop sees “a source of hope” in Russian airstrikes against rebel groups in their country.
Melkite Catholic Archbishop Jean-Clement Jeanbart of Aleppo said that the bombing of rebel positions by Russian jets was "a source of hope" for Syria, telling Suisse Romande television Oct. 8 that the intervention into the Syrian civil war by Russia "serves the Christian cause" and generated "renewed confidence among Christians in Syria."
"(Vladimir) Putin is solving a problem," said Jeanbart, who will speak to British politicians Oct. 13 in London about the persecution of Christians in his country.
His comments came three days after the Islamic State released a video showing the murders of three Assyrian Christians captured by in Hasakah province in February. They also came a week after Syriac Catholic Archbishop Jacques Behnan Hindo of Hassake-Nisibi defended the Russian campaign while accusing the United States of arming al-Qaida terrorists under "a different name."
Hindo said Western opposition to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad was wrong because it could make Syria "like Libya,” a country in a near state of anarchy after the the United States, Britain and France helped to bring down Moammar Gadhafi in 2011.
Hindo spoke after Sen. John McCain, chairman of the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee, claimed Russia was bombing rebel groups trained by the CIA.
Hindo told Fides, the news agency of the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples at the Vatican, that McCain's words represented "a blatant admission that behind the war against Assad there is also the CIA."
"There is something very disturbing about all this," he said in an Oct. 2 interview published online. "There is a superpower that since Sept. 11 protests because the Russians hit the militias of al-Qaida in Syria.
"What does it mean, (that) al-Qaida is now a U.S. ally, just because in Syria it has a different name?" he asked.
"Western propaganda keeps talking about moderate rebels, who do not exist," he continued, adding that the "Syrians will decide if and when Assad has to go away, and not the Daesh (Islamic State) or the West."
The following day, Peter Ford, a former British ambassador to Syria, criticized Britain's foreign policy against Assad as a "shambles." In an Oct. 3 interview with Sky News, Ford predicted that the Christian minority in Syria would be "massacred" by jihadists if Assad was ousted.
"The fall of the regime will be opening a Pandora's box such as we saw with the fall of Gadhafi in Libya and when Saddam Hussein fell," he said.
"Is this what (Prime Minister) David Cameron really wants, to open another Pandora's box?" he said. "Does he not realize that the fall of the Assad regime would lead to the massacres of Christians, Shias, Alawites, Druze and other minorities?
"I realize it is not fashionable to point to the plight of Christians in the Middle East today but he (Cameron) would have blood on his hands if Assad were to fall as the result of Western support for what Cameron amazingly called the 'legitimate opposition' to Assad," Ford said.
"Let us be clear here – we are talking about jihadis," he added. "Most of the opposition groups are jihadis, the so-called Free Syrian Army is just a footnote. If Assad was to fall — and the Russians thankfully realize this -– it would be a disaster."
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That, Tom Palven, is what our boys are fighting for there now. For Christian faith, Orthodox or Catholic. Westerners are Godless, at this point, no offense, even the supposedly religious don't want to help their brothers and sisters there again the Muslim fanatics. So... As much as I don't like Russia entering that conflict, someone had to act, before it was too late.

By the way, the main Syrian Kurdish group supports the Russian operation too: http://www.nrttv.com/en/Details.aspx?Jimare=3780
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That, Tom Palven, is what our boys are fighting for there now. For Christian faith, Orthodox or Catholic. Westerners are Godless, at this point, no offense, even the supposedly religious don't want to help their brothers and sisters there again the Muslim fanatics. So... As much as I don't like Russia entering that conflict, someone had to act, before it was too late.

By the way, the main Syrian Kurdish group supports the Russian operation too: http://www.nrttv.com/en/Details.aspx?Jimare=3780
The below was written just two days ago. Have you changed your mind so considerably in just two days?
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Do you still consider Putin's decision to take action in Syria to be a mistake?
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I do. I think weapons shipments to them were sufficient. Our servicemen should not be putting their lives at risk over there.
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Old Oct 11th 2015, 10:49 AM
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The below was written just two days ago. Have you changed your mind so considerably in just two days?

http://www.discussionworldforum.com/...?t=5199&page=2
I still believe it is a mistake. But, Syrian Christians do need help, at the end of the day. It is a mistake we have to make, I suppose. To show to Muslim fascists like ISIS that not all Christians are politically correct cowards these days, if nothing else

I am not sure... My rational mind disagrees with it all. But my faith pulls me to support it...
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