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Old Mar 20th 2018, 08:34 PM
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Robert Mueller spouting Deep State BS about weapons of mass destruction:
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...and lying statist control freak John Brennan bashing Trump:
https://consortiumnews.com/2018/03/1...unning-scared/
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...and lying statist control freak John Brennan bashing Trump:
https://consortiumnews.com/2018/03/1...unning-scared/
"lying statist control freak"?

Do you realize that you are spouting the rightwing/Fox News propaganda line here?

I'm curious why you are all of a sudden posting all this rightwing propaganda stuff. The US rightwing is trying to save Trump by pissing on anyone and everyone. Facts have no meaning to that crowd. They just throw shit at everything and hope some of it sticks.
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"lying statist control freak"?

Do you realize that you are spouting the rightwing/Fox News propaganda line here?

I'm curious why you are all of a sudden posting all this rightwing propaganda stuff. The US rightwing is trying to save Trump by pissing on anyone and everyone. Facts have no meaning to that crowd. They just throw shit at everything and hope some of it sticks.
This is from The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...an-lied-senate

Just Google "John Brennan liar" and there's more.

And there's former Director of Intelligence James Clapper who was proven to have lied under oath to the US Senate by documents Snowden released.

I'm hearing from all sides, liberals, conservatives and many people calling themselves libertarians that the secret police have to lie in order to protect America.

To me that's just plain bullshit. What would Washington to Jefferson have said about that?

And now we have bat-shit crazy Deep State warmonger John Bolton as National Security advisor.

Are you really defending these people?
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This is from The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...an-lied-senate

Just Google "John Brennan liar" and there's more.

And there's former Director of Intelligence James Clapper who was proven to have lied under oath to the US Senate by documents Snowden released.

I'm hearing from all sides, liberals, conservatives and many people calling themselves libertarians that the secret police have to lie in order to protect America.

To me that's just plain bullshit. What would Washington to Jefferson have said about that?

And now we have bat-shit crazy Deep State warmonger John Bolton as National Security advisor.

Are you really defending these people?
No, I'm not defending these people. I critiquing your usage of the term "deep state". High profile political appointees of Federal agencies are NOT, and can never be, considered "deep state". They are mostly just partisan political hacks.

"Deep state", insofar as it may exist, can only apply to professional career bureaucrats who hold senior positions in key institutions. They are low-profile by definition.

You are using the term "deep state" in two different ways similtaneously - that is to say, a perjorative that is popular with both the radical rightwingers AND radical leftwingers to describe federal officials they don't like.

Neither John Brennan nor John Bolton are 'deep state' and to call them by that term makes no sense at all.
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