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Old Jan 12th 2017, 06:47 PM
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Also keep in mind that due to how the internet works, I bet a whole lot of the revenue that funds the good journalism comes from articles such as "Fifteen cats that resemble 12th century central European monarchs."
Nothing unusual about that.

For decades, classified ads paid for newspaper journalism. Back in the day, most [quality] newspapers derrived between 40 and 50 percent of revenues from classified ads. Craigslist is what really killed newspapers by killing the classified ad revenues.
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Old Jan 12th 2017, 06:59 PM
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From what I've gathered, most of this has practically no corroboration.

I'm glad its being investigated and I can understand CNN feeling justified in reporting on that investigation, but I think Buzzfeed crossed the line in publishing some really serious and salacious accusations when they have no real verification. That's not good journalism.
I think "good journalism" is as dead as a doornail these days.

For example, FBI Director Comey released a report 10 days before the election that reported absolutely nothing new, and no illegality, but it was about Hillary Clinton so every fucking media organization in America made it front page news for days. That wasn't journalism they were doing. They didn't even try to do journalism.

Bottom line is that 'real' journalism is hard and costs money. Propagating bullshit is easy, costs practically nothing and is therefore profitable. And what is profitable rules America.
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Nothing unusual about that.

For decades, classified ads paid for newspaper journalism. Back in the day, most [quality] newspapers derrived between 40 and 50 percent of revenues from classified ads. Craigslist is what really killed newspapers by killing the classified ad revenues.
Yeah but the ads might be the same on a serious article as they are on a listicle, but the listicle is what gets the clicks, hence the revenue. That's all I meant.
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Yeah but the ads might be the same on a serious article as they are on a listicle, but the listicle is what gets the clicks, hence the revenue. That's all I meant.
And I'm pointing out that this is nothing new at all.

For most of the 20th century, 'clicking' on classified ads is what paid for serious newspaper journalism.

Btw, do you know which section of the old daily newspaper that had the highest readership rate after the classified ads? Horoscopes and comics.
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Well, this is certainly no good:

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Russian agents hacked US voting system manufacturer before US election report
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...tem-nsa-report
The plot continues to thicken.

Incidentally, any idea what happened to MM&I? I keep hoping he'll weigh in at some point about all this.
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The hits just keep coming, man.

What a fucking disaster.
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The hits just keep coming, man.

What a fucking disaster.
I confess, I'm really curious what's going to happen on Thursday with Comey. If it's going to be a significant turning point, another rehashing of what's already been said, or just a bunch of "I can't discuss that."
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I confess, I'm really curious what's going to happen on Thursday with Comey. If it's going to be a significant turning point, another rehashing of what's already been said, or just a bunch of "I can't discuss that."
I suspect any real potential bombshells will be classified, but I don't see how Trump asking him to lay-off the Russian investigation is classified, if true.
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I suspect any real potential bombshells will be classified, but I don't see how Trump asking him to lay-off the Russian investigation is classified, if true.
It would seem, as the old Chinese saying goes, that we do live in interesting times!
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Basketball is letting me down. Gotta have something to which to look forward.
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