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Old May 5th 2014, 07:23 PM
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Have any of you heard of Christopher Hitchens's brother Peter Hitchens. Like Christopher, Peter was a Marxist in his youth, but Peter has gone on to become a very conservative columnist for the very conservative Daily Mail newspaper. He is a staunch Christian, and occasionally takes part in BBC radio discussions.
No I haven't. I never liked Hitchens, so I've never paid much attention to him. Marxists turning into conservatives aren't very interesting. Heck, they are quite common. Conservatives turning into Marxists are much more interesting people.
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The only flaw in this logic is that Afghanistan was completely fucked up and destablized even before the Americans arrived. If the goal was to maintain a fucked up and destablized Afghanistan to justify the 'war on terror', the Americans could have just stayed home and saved the money, because Afghanistan is inherently fucked and unstable (as it has been for several hundreds of years already).
You can't get your hands on the country's produce if you're not there. Who's controlling the opium fields nowadays . Also, the big money didn't really go to Afghani corrupt officials but to US corporations.

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That being said, the one thing we can be sure of is that we will never see any kind of 'genuine democratic movement' in Afghanistan in our lifetimes. That's even more absurd than the American military trying to "stablize" the place.
Very unlikely indeed.
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You can't get your hands on the country's produce if you're not there. Who's controlling the opium fields nowadays . Also, the big money didn't really go to Afghani corrupt officials but to US corporations.
The strategic value of Afghanistan is not control of poppy fields, but rather the route for a gas pipeline across Afghanistan that avoids both Russia and Iran. That's why Afghanistan remains strategically important in the 21st century. If it wasn't for that, no one would care about the place.
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In a Shift, Obama Extends U.S. Role in Afghan Combat

By MARK MAZZETTI and ERIC SCHMITTNOV. 21, 2014

WASHINGTON — President Obama decided in recent weeks to authorize a more expansive mission for the military in Afghanistan in 2015 than originally planned, a move that ensures American troops will have a direct role in fighting in the war-ravaged country for at least another year.

Mr. Obama’s order allows American forces to carry out missions against the Taliban and other militant groups threatening American troops or the Afghan government, a broader mission than the president described to the public earlier this year, according to several administration, military and congressional officials with knowledge of the decision. The new authorization also allows American jets, bombers and drones to support Afghan troops on combat missions.

In an announcement in the White House Rose Garden in May, Mr. Obama said that the American military would have no combat role in Afghanistan next year, and that the missions for the 9,800 troops remaining in the country would be limited to training Afghan forces and to hunting the “remnants of Al Qaeda.”
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Gosh, what a surprise. Obama is escalating US forces in Afghanistan - again.

Since it worked so well the last time...
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Gosh, what a surprise. Obama is escalating US forces in Afghanistan - again.

Since it worked so well the last time...

Yes, here we go again, winning friends and influencing people:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/11...s-night-raids/
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The Times-Union, Jacksonville, FL, page A-5 today:
"3 US contractors dead in shooting" by Sudarson Raghavan and Missy Ryan,
The Washington Post

"...The killings served as a reminder of the threats faced by the roughly 10,600 US troops and tens of thousands of American contractors who remain in Afghanistan..." (emphasis mine)

It seems unlikely that the Associated Press, handmaiden of the US powers-that-be, will acknowledge that tens of thousands of US contractors are employed in Afghanistan.
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More news you're not likely to get from the Associated Press:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0LL0PY20150217
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More news you're not likely to get from the Associated Press:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0LL0PY20150217
May I ask why you quite often talk about the Associated Press? No matter how biased they may be, no one is any more obliged to read them than any other of the many biased media outlets.

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May I ask why you quite often talk about the Associated Press? No matter how biased they may be, no one is any more obliged to read them than any other of the many biased media outlets.
Yes, because the Associated Press is the biggest propaganda network in the US, dominating the news in most papers, and quoting "unnamed sources" at the Pentagon, State Dept., and Treasury Dept., which according to polls most Americans apparently believe, and which a lot of the world laughs at.

Unlike Reuters, The Guardian, Russia Today, Le Monde, al Jazeera, and other news sources, not to mention Anti-war.com, the AP is very sparing in printing anything that might be embarrassing to the US bureaucracy, with which it enjoys a very cozy relationship.
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And the parrot-like TV media are just about as bad. The second little clip that follows on "economic factors" is just as good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o9x-yDyN78
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