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Old Sep 6th 2010, 01:34 PM
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Anything is possible I suppose, though what comments Sadr might nor might not have made in the presence of his own immediate followers isn't something we're like to ever be sure about. I'm not familiar enough with the issue to know whether Sadr ever condemned such violence or not, or if the culture is such that a lack of condemnation is interpreted as approval.

All things considered, I'd say that trying to judge Sadr and his motives definitively (for good or ill) is risky business and the whole thing is muddled with misinformation from various sources. Personally, I look warily on any sectarian religious political figure, especially those who are closely associated with armed militia groups.
I agree. With a White House that was caught spreading disinformation left and right and a CIA that thrives on destroying a persons credibility through outright lies and deception, who can really say what's going on.
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It looks like Mookie is back, although after reading this article I'm still as clueless as the State Department/Pentagon (pretty fucking clueless) and don't know what this means or how it will all play out.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/0...065727884.html

Probably the only thing that CENTCOM can do is to stay the course- bomb and drone civilians and infrastructure hoping to win hearts and minds and create pro-Americanism.
http://www.centcom.mil/
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I do think al-Sadr is long term good for Iraq.
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I do think al-Sadr is long term good for Iraq.
Yes, that's my view as well. I hope he can give Iraq the kind of leadership it needs so badly.
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More about Mookie:
http://news.antiwar.com/2016/03/04/s...de-green-zone/
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Is Muqtada al Sadr?

Is he laying low? Did he do stuff in the recent elections? Is he pulling puppet strings?

The western media has apparently forgotten about him entirely.
Mookie is still around.

Petraeus bombed his alleged whereabouts, then asked him to come in for a friendly chat, which he refused to do, and he is still a Mid-Eastern political leader who has resisted US carrots and sticks and is alive to tell about it:

http://news.antiwar.com/2016/03/27/i...-after-sit-in/
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There he is: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...d7d_story.html

State of emergency declared in Baghdad as protesters take Iraqi parliament
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There he is: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...d7d_story.html

State of emergency declared in Baghdad as protesters take Iraqi parliament
Yes, Mookie's back. Here is Al Jazeera's take on it:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/0...120004964.html
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Yes, Mookie's back. Here is Al Jazeera's take on it:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/0...120004964.html
Mookie remains politically active. As I've said all along, I expect him to be and remain a dominant political player in Iraq, and he seems like one of the very few with any integrity at all.
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Mookie remains politically active. As I've said all along, I expect him to be and remain a dominant political player in Iraq, and he seems like one of the very few with any integrity at all.
Yes, he's still politically active, and he's still saying Yanqui Go Home.

http://news.antiwar.com/2016/07/17/i...get-us-troops/
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