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However, I don't believe it is the future. But if it is, I'll take up some other hobby. But as you see, it isn't YET - so power to the sport of football for maintaining it that way - I'm very proud of that.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anastasia_Rodionova Among many others. So, Nick, should immigrants be allowed to compete for their adoptive nation? I ask, because you said |
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![]() There is a skier for Colombia... born in US, dad is German, lives in California?
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![]() MeMyselfandI, I don't think a player necessarily HAS TO be born in a country. I said every player was born in Spain, not because I thought being born there was a ALWAYS a criterion, but because I needed to show you that Spain DID NOT buy their way to victory. Perhaps you should recognise the fact that they did NOT buy their way to victory, and be happy about that, and recognise that INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL is superior to CLUB football in this way.
As for immigrants - some immigrants should be allowed to represent their NEW country, others not. Should Arshavin, an immigrant to England, be allowed to play for England? No, because he migrated for money. SHould a refugee be allowed to play for England? Yes. But the most important rule, is this - a player can only play for ONE country in his entire life, apart from refugees, like Ferenc Puskas to Spain. This rule is more important than all others.
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I have a different story for you though, going back to already mentioned Brazilians. Spartak Moscow's Brazilian forward Welliton ![]() (right) has, with support of his club, applied for Russian citizenship http://www.sovsport.ru/news/text-item/507471 He says, in a May interview, it would be a "great honor" for him to play for the Russian National Team in Sochi in 2014 http://www.rusfootball.info/pliga/11...aya-chest.html By the way, as a comment on the second article mentions, American basketball player Jon Robert Holden played for Russia from 2005 to 2007 ![]() and it was great. The National Team, already one of the best in the world, improved drastically. If Welliton can do the same for football, why not? I say give him a passport. ![]() |
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![]() Arshavin is an immigrant. He moved to England, where he could do his job for more money. He pays taxes in England. The fact that he isn't seeking British citizenship doesn't stop him from being an immigrant, unless your definition of immigrant is very unusual indeed.
Spain won the World Cup with only players that were born in Spain. Germany came 3rd, and had plenty of players who were born outside Germany. But all of Germany's players had lived in Germany since they were children. Therefore, I regard them as totally German. Germany didn't buy them, just because they were good at football. So Germany and Spain are BOTH proof of how internationl teams don't BUY success, they earn them with their own people. Club football is the place where you buy success, not international football.
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![]() 1. Arshavin is not a immigrant. Immigrant is somebody who leaves their birth country, permanently, settles in another country, with a clear intent to become a part of that country, most obvious proof of that intent being the seeking of that country's citizenship. Arshavin may be plays football in Britain, but he is not a British, nor does he want to become that. He is Russian, Russian citizen, plays for the national team. At most you could call him a 'expatriate'. Maybe.
2. Not all nations can 'grow' talent. Poor Southern countries in Asia, Africa, and Latin America cannot grow own hockey talent, so it has become a game for the wealthier Northern nations only, a game for white people. I think this is completely disgraceful and unfair. Then, you have, for example, us Russians who love to watch footbal but, with Pavlyuchenko, Arshavin, and Bilyaletdinov being rare exceptions, are just naturally bad at playing it. ![]() |
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African people are NOT interested in ice hockey, believe it or not. Countries tend to be interested in sports that they become good at. Still, you can carry on hoping that in the future, England, Russia, Qatar, USA, Germany, and other rich countries will be able to buy all the best players from poor countries. When the same RICH countries are ALWAYS winning all sports competitions, then you will have got your way. Sport is supposed to be fun, and I'll never forget seeing the DELIGHTED Africans when Senegal beat France in 2002, or when Cameroon beat Argentina in 1990, or when Morocco beat Portugal in 1986. And you want to take that away. Well, I hope you and your ilk don't manage. And if Russians are SO different from us Europeans that they would be happy to win the World CUp with 11 players that were just given Russian passports, then all I can say is, thank God I don't live in Russia - what a primitive mindset.
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![]() PS: In English (the British variety) an immigrant is any foreign person who lives in the country, and is not a student. Arshavin is a migrant worker, so an immigrant.
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