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Old Oct 2nd 2017, 06:40 PM
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Another mass shooting, this time in Las Vegas. At least 50 dead and 200 wounded from the report I read earlier.
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Any bets on who's going to be indicted by Muellers team on Monday? Or for what?
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Old Oct 29th 2017, 09:20 AM
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I couldn't guess - too many to choose from!

It could be someone low level in order to get them to turn evidence on higher rank people. Or it could be a higher level person in order to scare the other higher rank people in cooperating.

Manafort or Flynn seem to be the most likely.
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Three of them! Manafort, Gates and Papadopoulos.

Apparently George Papadopoulos has already pleaded guilty and is turning evidence (allegedly from wearing a wire to some meeting). That's the key source of evidence against the others.

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Early on Monday morning, FBI agents took Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and his aide Richard Gates into custody. The two men were indicted on charges of money laundering and illegal lobbying charges on behalf of Ukrainian leader Viktor Yanukovych (charges to which they pleaded not guilty). About two hours later, we learned that Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos had pleaded guilty to charges of lying to the FBI. He admitted to lying, specifically, about meetings in which he discussed potentially colluding with Russian agents to acquire Hillary Clinton’s private emails.

Put together, the charges against the three men illustrate a clear pattern of using whatever charge you can stand up — even if it doesn’t directly relate to the Russian collusion — to build a case against anyone who was involved, with the ultimate goal of getting the lower-level people to testify against the bigger fish.

You’ve probably heard of this kind of approach in mob movies, but it’s also what real prosecutors do. Experts say that Mueller is adapting this playbook for the Russia investigation.

“The idea that he would go after the campaign manager of the Trump campaign is just extraordinary — it means he must have great confidence in the case against Manafort,” says Ryan Goodman, a former Department of Defense special counsel and editor of the legal publication Just Security. “It does compare to prosecutions of organized crime, with respect to going after someone who is legally exposed … and trying to flip them if they have the kind of information that could really break open the case.”

What this means, then, is that the Manafort/Gates/Papadopoulos cases are not intended to stand alone. They are the first blood in a battle that will likely involve more and more members of Trumpworld as time goes on — with indictments going as high as the evidence and law support.
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Looks like Meuller is playing a long game here. I'm guessing money laundering is likely to be the thing to bring them all down.
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Three of them! Manafort, Gates and Papadopoulos.

Apparently George Papadopoulos has already pleaded guilty and is turning evidence (allegedly from wearing a wire to some meeting). That's the key source of evidence against the others.



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Looks like Meuller is playing a long game here. I'm guessing money laundering is likely to be the thing to bring them all down.
Yeah. So far Papadopoulos is the only one with direct connections to the Russia issue, but he's a small fish. Flipping Manafort would be the real coup, assuming there's something really there to find, he probably knew about it.

It'll be hard, though. Mob bosses can't promise pardons to their underlings to keep their mouths shut, but presidents can.
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Yeah. So far Papadopoulos is the only one with direct connections to the Russia issue, but he's a small fish. Flipping Manafort would be the real coup, assuming there's something really there to find, he probably knew about it.

It'll be hard, though. Mob bosses can't promise pardons to their underlings to keep their mouths shut, but presidents can.
Meuller isn't stupid. His charges include state law violations which are NOT subject to Presidential pardons.

For what its worth, I have to say that the whole Presidential Pardon system is yet another constitutional horror story that basically facilitates political corruption. Way too many features of the US constitution seem to have this effect.
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Two popular conservative Twitter personalities were just outed as Russian trolls

Jenna Abrams was a popular figure in right-wing social media circles. Boasting nearly 70,000 followers, Abrams was featured in numerous news articles during the 2016 election, spotlighted by outlets as varied as USA Today, the Washington Post, the BBC, and Yahoo! Sports. Her tweet about CNN airing porn during Anthony Bourdain’s show (it didn’t) was reported by numerous outlets.

But Abrams never existed.

According to information released by House Democrats earlier this week, Abrams was one of more than 2,750 fake Twitter accounts created by employees at the Internet Research Agency, a “troll farm” funded by the Russian government based in St. Petersburg. In addition to the Abrams account, several other popular conservative social media personalities — @LauraBaeley, SouthLoneStar, Ten_GOP — were all revealed to be troll accounts. All have been deactivated on Twitter.

According to the Daily Beast, the agency developed a following around the Abrams account by offering humorous, seemingly non-political takes on pop culture figures like Kim Kardashian. The agency also furnished the fake account, which dates back to 2014, with a personal website, a Gmail account and even a GoFundMe page.

Once the Abrams account began to develop a following, the tone of its tweets shifted from pokes and prods at celebrities to divisive views on hot topics like immigration and segregation.

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Pamela Moore, another popular online personality during the 2016 election who tweeted using the handle @Pamela_Moore13. was also created in the same Russian troll factory with the same basic mission — to sow division and heighten racial tension among Americans.

Unlike the Abrams account, which went out of its way to say it wasn’t pro-Trump, nearly all of Moore’s tweets leading up to the election appear to have crafted to support Trump’s campaign. Among the account’s most widely shared posts leading up to the election were tweets repeating lies and conspiracy theories about Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and pushing themes of Trump’s campaign, including this anti-refugee post that was shared more than 4,700 times.
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The Russians set up more than 2750 fake twitter accounts for pushing propaganda in the US during the US election. Virtually of it pro-Trump and pro-Rightwing. And these Russian agent twitters all became darlings of the US alt-right movement. Surprise, surprise!
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Big night for Democrats last night around here. Major victories in lots of races in Virginia, the expected governorship of New Jersey, and pretty much sweeping the state-wide races in PA and all the local races in my township/county.

And typically these sorts of off-year elections tilt Republican. It's a long way to November 2018, but if current trends continue we could be in for some major shake-ups.
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Big night for Democrats last night around here. Major victories in lots of races in Virginia, the expected governorship of New Jersey, and pretty much sweeping the state-wide races in PA and all the local races in my township/county.

And typically these sorts of off-year elections tilt Republican. It's a long way to November 2018, but if current trends continue we could be in for some major shake-ups.
Yes indeed. Very high turnout in Virginia swamped the Republican gerrymandered legislature. That does bode well for the Democrats in 2018 mid-terms.
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