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Old Sep 4th 2016, 07:47 AM
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Why is boxing divided into weight classes? Other sports aren't divided into classes of any kind, yet boxing is not the only sport where certain physical aspects influence success?
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For example, basketball - we all know that it's an advantage to be tall, but if one is short, and wants to play basketball, one just has to do one's best to make things like ball control compensate for lack of centimetres.
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Then there's running - I dare say having long legs helps, especially with sprinting.
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So what do people think?
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Old Sep 4th 2016, 08:38 AM
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Why is boxing divided into weight classes? Other sports aren't divided into classes of any kind, yet boxing is not the only sport where certain physical aspects influence success?
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For example, basketball - we all know that it's an advantage to be tall, but if one is short, and wants to play basketball, one just has to do one's best to make things like ball control compensate for lack of centimetres.
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Then there's running - I dare say having long legs helps, especially with sprinting.
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So what do people think?
All "combat" sports are divided by weight class, to remove signifucant unfair advantage in size and strengh.

Which does not mean such David vs. Goliath showdowns never happen.

Our Russian champion Fedor Emelianenko

fight against the Korean monster Hong Man Choi

few years ago in Pride MMA comes to my mind


Fedor is no midget himself:

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1.82 m (5 ft 11 1⁄2 in)[2]
Weight 235 lb (107 kg; 16.8 st)[2]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Emelianenko

But Choi dwarfed him, easily:

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Height 218 cm (7 ft 2 in)
Weight 150 kg (330 lb; 24 st)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choi_Hong-man




Fedor won that fight, he ended up locking Choi in a Sambo arm hold, and held him like that, or... well, hung iff him like that, really lol until the Korean tapped out


I think he broke Choi's arm, in the end.

Thus, skill beat size Not for first ir last time.

MMA has had plenty of such unequal battles, in fact


And as for boxing, our Nikolai Valuev stood a whole weight class above anyone else for a long time


Yet your British compatriot David Haye managed, finally, to defeat him, by point decision, and take his championship belt

(nobody, including Haye, was ever able to knock Valuev down in the ring, before, or since, unt he retired and be a member of the Duma lol)

So, point is, even the weight classes do not guarrantee total equality of opponents. But... Better than nothing
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Old Sep 4th 2016, 09:23 AM
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All "combat" sports are divided by weight class, to remove signifucant unfair advantage in size and strengh.

Which does not mean such David vs. Goliath showdowns never happen.

Our Russian champion Fedor Emelianenko

fight against the Korean monster Hong Man Choi

few years ago in Pride MMA comes to my mind


Fedor is no midget himself:



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Emelianenko

But Choi dwarfed him, easily:



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choi_Hong-man




Fedor won that fight, he ended up locking Choi in a Sambo arm hold, and held him like that, or... well, hung iff him like that, really lol until the Korean tapped out


I think he broke Choi's arm, in the end.

Thus, skill beat size Not for first ir last time.

MMA has had plenty of such unequal battles, in fact


And as for boxing, our Nikolai Valuev stood a whole weight class above anyone else for a long time


Yet your British compatriot David Haye managed, finally, to defeat him, by point decision, and take his championship belt

(nobody, including Haye, was ever able to knock Valuev down in the ring, before, or since, unt he retired and be a member of the Duma lol)

So, point is, even the weight classes do not guarrantee total equality of opponents. But... Better than nothing
You're not answering the question about why boxing, or other combat sports are divided, but other sports aren't. See the examples in my first post.
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Old Sep 6th 2016, 06:17 PM
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Why is boxing divided into weight classes? Other sports aren't divided into classes of any kind, yet boxing is not the only sport where certain physical aspects influence success?
Greco-Roman wrestling is always divided into weight classes as well.
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Old Sep 7th 2016, 01:25 AM
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Greco-Roman wrestling is always divided into weight classes as well.
Thank you. I wonder why non-combat sports aren't divided into classes (eg. basketball and height) while combat sports are. Does anyone have any idea why this might be?
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I really am curious about why combat sports are divided into weight classes, while other sports (for example basketball and height) aren't divided into classes.

Can anyone proved a good reason for why while boxing is divided into weight classes, basketball isn't divided into height classes?
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I really am curious about why combat sports are divided into weight classes, while other sports (for example basketball and height) aren't divided into classes.

Can anyone proved a good reason for why while boxing is divided into weight classes, basketball isn't divided into height classes?
It seems to be an issue of entertainment. A 150 pound guy fighting a 250 pound guy isn't so much a fight as much as criminal assault. Heavy weights fight with a different style compared to light weights. For the sport to be entertaining it seems better to watch like vs like fight.
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Old Oct 17th 2016, 04:55 PM
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It seems to be an issue of entertainment. A 150 pound guy fighting a 250 pound guy isn't so much a fight as much as criminal assault. Heavy weights fight with a different style compared to light weights. For the sport to be entertaining it seems better to watch like vs like fight.
No me. I enjoy David vs. Goliath type showdowns

One of my favorites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSS1zh45Fts

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