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Old Sep 4th 2016, 05:51 AM
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For statists and nation-builders there's the question of a Kurdish state.
http://news.antiwar.com/2016/09/02/t...-least-27-pkk/

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"Imagine there's no countries...
You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one..."
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Old Sep 4th 2016, 08:45 AM
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I cannot comprehend our government's sudden warming relations with Erdogan, given that Turks are our natural, historic enemy.

But for your government to look on silently and do nothing as they attack the Kurds, a far more loyal friend to you than the Turks have ever been... Cowardly and pathetic IMHO
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Old Sep 4th 2016, 11:12 AM
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A Kurdish state seems an absolute necessity for mid-term peace in the region.
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I cannot comprehend our government's sudden warming relations with Erdogan, given that Turks are our natural, historic enemy.

But for your government to look on silently and do nothing as they attack the Kurds, a far more loyal friend to you than the Turks have ever been... Cowardly and pathetic IMHO
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Putin saw a chance to alienate an important ally from America, from NATO, and one who had already been reaching out desperately to him for awhile. He went for it. I do not blame him.

And oyr foreign policy, fortunately, is not built around the feelings or wishes of any individual or family, even that of a martyred war hero.
http://www.discussionworldforum.com/...?t=5648&page=2

Doesn't it appear that you've changed your tune?
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A Kurdish state seems an absolute necessity for mid-term peace in the region.
True, but the problem is 'Where?'. Depending on the chosen location it might become a second Israel rather than a peace enhancer.
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Old Sep 5th 2016, 01:37 PM
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True, but the problem is 'Where?'. Depending on the chosen location it might become a second Israel rather than a peace enhancer.
I won't pretend to be an "expert" on the subject enough to answer that properly.
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Old Sep 6th 2016, 06:16 PM
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True, but the problem is 'Where?'. Depending on the chosen location it might become a second Israel rather than a peace enhancer.
Anywhere you put it, you are going to get the 'Israel' problem on steroids. And that explains entirely why there is no Kurdistan on the map. Also, the Jews had lots of friends in UK and USA. Kurdistan doesn't.
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YouYourselfAndYou, please notice my post, post number 4 on this thread. I would be grateful for an answer.
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Old Sep 8th 2016, 12:42 PM
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Doesn't it appear that you've changed your tune?
Not really. I have long been divided on this issue. I do NOT like our government suddenly warming up with the Turks. But I also know that, in our political system, those in the Kremlin care very little what myself or let alone those poorer and therefor lesser than myself feel, especially about foreign policy. So...
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Old Sep 8th 2016, 02:33 PM
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Not really. I have long been divided on this issue. I do NOT like our government suddenly warming up with the Turks. But I also know that, in our political system, those in the Kremlin care very little what myself or let alone those poorer and therefor lesser than myself feel, especially about foreign policy. So...
Thank you for answering the question.
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