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Old May 5th 2011, 08:40 PM
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"Pangu 7 Star Hotel is China’s newest icon and the latest masterpiece of world-renowned architect C.Y. Lee, the man behind Taipei 101, the world’s second tallest building. The hotel is the pinnacle of Pangu Plaza, featuring breathtaking views of Beijing’s Olympic theatre of dreams as well as world class office space, restaurants, lavish residences and the breathtakingly opulent Sky Courtyards."

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Almost makes me wish I was still in travel mode and gives new meaning to the Western cliché 'developing nations'.
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Old May 5th 2011, 08:48 PM
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Well... building up is better than out.
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It apparently offers all the attributes any first-class traveler desires with no waste of personal energy on horizontal footsteps.

Magnificent accommodations.
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China is great at this sort of stuff. It's sad really... Just, what, two years ago, us and them finally signed all the documents, divided finally the Amur river islands that were in dispute for something like a hundred years.

Well, I was watching on the news they were talking about it. Ussuriysky island, or, I think, Jenbao is how the Chinese half of it is called. On their side, they already have a automobile bridge, on ours we've only now built a hanging pedestrian one... Even that, took the army, the Engeneering Troops, to built. On their side, buildings already coming up; on ours, hotel, entertainment center, casino, still only on paper, though they said Putin finally signed off the funding, so it should be coming now, starting with a car+railway bridge. As of now, 500 people live on our side of the island, they are cut off from the 'mainland' most of the time, unless the army can get the pedestrian bridge stable enough to cross safely. It's pathetic this is going so slowly...

We need to start learning from China.
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China is great at this sort of stuff. It's sad really... Just, what, two years ago, us and them finally signed all the documents, divided finally the Amur river islands that were in dispute for something like a hundred years.

Well, I was watching on the news they were talking about it. Ussuriysky island, or, I think, Jenbao is how the Chinese half of it is called. On their side, they already have a automobile bridge, on ours we've only now built a hanging pedestrian one... Even that, took the army, the Engeneering Troops, to built. On their side, buildings already coming up; on ours, hotel, entertainment center, casino, still only on paper, though they said Putin finally signed off the funding, so it should be coming now, starting with a car+railway bridge. As of now, 500 people live on our side of the island, they are cut off from the 'mainland' most of the time, unless the army can get the pedestrian bridge stable enough to cross safely. It's pathetic this is going so slowly...

We need to start learning from China.
You may start by ruthlessly suppressing the Cossacks.
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Old May 6th 2011, 09:27 AM
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China is great at this sort of stuff. It's sad really... Just, what, two years ago, us and them finally signed all the documents, divided finally the Amur river islands that were in dispute for something like a hundred years.

Well, I was watching on the news they were talking about it. Ussuriysky island, or, I think, Jenbao is how the Chinese half of it is called. On their side, they already have a automobile bridge, on ours we've only now built a hanging pedestrian one... Even that, took the army, the Engeneering Troops, to built. On their side, buildings already coming up; on ours, hotel, entertainment center, casino, still only on paper, though they said Putin finally signed off the funding, so it should be coming now, starting with a car+railway bridge. As of now, 500 people live on our side of the island, they are cut off from the 'mainland' most of the time, unless the army can get the pedestrian bridge stable enough to cross safely. It's pathetic this is going so slowly...

We need to start learning from China.
500 residents doesn't provide much of a tax base or potential revenue stream for investment purposes.
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You may start by ruthlessly suppressing the Cossacks.
Easy to say Even the Soviet Red Army, mighty as it was, could not totally destroy them. In the Civil War, Lenin even recruited Chechens and other mountain people, and Cossack traitors like Semyon Budenny's Horsemen (the Cossacks consider them traitors, even blew up a big statue of Budenny in his town of birth in Rostov oblast in 1994). But, still, it dragged on for years and Reds lost many men before they overwhelmed the Cossacks with their sheer numbers.

And, before that, there was the bloody Cossack rebellion under Ataman Stepan Razin in 1670

where not only thousands of troops, but two princes and a general were killed; and the 1773 Cossack rebellion under Ataman Emelian Pugachev

which also lasted for years. Interestingly enough, Razin and Pugachev came from the same Cossack stanitsa (village), Zimoveiskaya. The current Ataman of Don and Supreme Ataman of Russian Cossacks, Viktor Vodolacky

also happens to be from Zimoveiskaya, and 3 years ago, he actually ordered the stanitsa renamed Pugachevskaya, in that man's honor. A monument to Pugachev was also put up in the village
In the Soviet times, a statue of Lenin stood there, the Cossacks tore it down right in 1991.

Anyway, a confrontation with Cossacks is not something the government wants. That would be bad. Chechnya would seem like nothing much in comparison.

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500 residents doesn't provide much of a tax base or potential revenue stream for investment purposes.
Well, as I said, it's supposed to be a casino zone, among other things. Hotels, entertainment. Taxes and revenue will come from tourists, not much from residents.

That is the plan, at least
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It apparently offers all the attributes any first-class traveler desires with no waste of personal energy on horizontal footsteps.

Magnificent accommodations.
Why can't you go? It sounds like it would be quite an experience.
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Why can't you go? It sounds like it would be quite an experience.
For me air/road travel lost its appeal some time ago.
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For me air/road travel lost its appeal some time ago.
I stopped enjoying air travel way back when I worked for the airlines and flew non-revenue everywhere. Excruciating. Then when I started flying for business I was all excited to sit in a seat that was paid for. No difference at all.

Can I tell you a story?
I flew from Florida to SFO where I met my boss and his wife who had just flown to SFO from Eastern Europe. I felt bad that they had to put in so many hours on an airplane.
My cell went off in the airport while I was trying to grab dinner before leaving for Guam. "Where are you?, we're already at the gate!" So I left half a beer in a glass and took off to go wait at the dark and empty gate while he and his wife rested in the special airline club room.

I got stuck by the window and had to climb over a rather robust Filipino to get to the bathroom - he wouldn't wake up. When I came back he cussed me out for having been un-ladylike.

Woke up hours later for breakfast - a steaming plate of tinfoil-wrapped fish with cold scrambled, runny scrambled eggs.

When we all arrived at the other end of our flight, I was so sick and tired and my boss was all like: "Let's go, we aren't here on vacation". He'd been in 1st class and 5 star hotels for a couple of weeks.

So yeah, I hate airplane travel unless its a private plane.
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