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Old Jul 17th 2011, 09:40 AM
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Norway, which is one of the 4 least religious nations in the world
http://www.gallup.com/poll/114211/Al...ns-Common.aspx
, and I know that to be true, since I lived there for about 21 years, has an official state church.

So does Great Britain, whose dominant ethnic groups (the English and Scottish) are also very relaxed about religion.

And these 2 countries are not exactly poor, especially Norway, which is one of the richest nations on earth.
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Old Jul 17th 2011, 08:46 PM
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Norway, which is one of the 4 least religious nations in the world
http://www.gallup.com/poll/114211/Al...ns-Common.aspx
, and I know that to be true, since I lived there for about 21 years, has an official state church.

So does Great Britain, whose dominant ethnic groups (the English and Scottish) are also very relaxed about religion.

And these 2 countries are not exactly poor, especially Norway, which is one of the richest nations on earth.
What you should take into account is, Norway's (Lutheran? Or Catholic? I forget...) Church is, probably, far more, shall we say, progressive, in its values and teachings than the Russian Orthodox Church. In those communities in Russia that the Church considers 'model adherents of the Faith', those that live a traditional Orthodox lifetsyle, totally following the conventions of the Church, women do not work outside the home, nor receive education above school, and often they have to cover their heads when they go out, as I told before.

Birth control is banned usually. Or at least discouraged.


It is becoming quite popular now, in Siberia particularly: some maybe 5 or so families come together, go into the forest, chop down a few trees, make a clearing, put a cross into the ground

build houses, settle in

and declare themselves a 'Traditional Orthodox Community'. They even recruit on the Internet now, on one forum for parents of large families, there was a woman posted about a Orthodox commune being formed in Krasnoyarsk Krai, and that any families who wish to join them should e-mail their information. Some 7 signed up that day.

People want to rebuild the traditional Russian, Orthodox way of life


There is some yearning, among many, they want to live as our ancestors had. They do not understand that it is a different time now...
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Old Jul 17th 2011, 11:33 PM
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MeMyselfandI, the Norwegian Lutheran Church is indeed very 'modern' shall we say. If it wasn't. the people wouldn't tolerate it. People are already saying that Norway shouldn't have a state church. If the state church suddenly started sacking its gay priests (yes) or something, the people wouldn't accept it. That's the truth.
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Old Jul 18th 2011, 05:14 PM
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So does Great Britain, whose dominant ethnic groups (the English and Scottish) are also very relaxed about religion.
Britain has already experienced the religious wars era, which means their state religion is a peace-seeking comprimise. In my terminology, that means the Church of England is properly 'house-trained' for a democratic society.

The Orthodox Church of Russia has NEVER been 'house-trained' and therefore presents a major risk to democracy.

In other words, the threat isn't from 'state sponsored religion' per se. The threat is from a militant church that seeks to rule.
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