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Old Oct 9th 2013, 06:08 PM
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The "King's Gate" in Kaliningrad
Hmmm... methinks the architect has copied the main gate from Hampton Court (which is a rather famous piece of architecture that defines the advent of 'Tudor-style').
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I've noticed that too that castles are relatively speaking dirt cheap. I assume the renovation and maintenance cost explain that.
Yes, definitely.

Plus most existing castles (that weren't actually destroyed) are usually in remote/rural places far from cities.

The best surviving castles in Britain for example are in North Wales (apart from the ones still in use like Dover, London and Windsor).
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Amusing article

However, none of the "castles" are in fact castles. They are all 18th and 19th century country houses (aka "chateau").
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At the same time William Howells was writing The Rise of Silas Lapham, (more or less) something interesting was going on in the United States.

The rich boys were playing house, making their own ersatz castles:


Berkeley Castle, W.Va., 1885


Belvedere Castle, N.Y., 1869


Boldt Castle, N.Y., 1900


Parks' Castle, Conn., 1895


Winnekenni Castle, Mass., 1873

There are tons of these things. What they lack in age, they make up for in cloying auspiciousness.
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Ersatz being the operative word here. Except for Parks' Castle. That's rather nice. As a house that is, it's not a castle in the broad or narrow sense.
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Ersatz being the operative word here. Except for Parks' Castle. That's rather nice. As a house that is, it's not a castle in the broad or narrow sense.
As a general rule, if a building has ground level windows, it can't be considered a castle.

Btw, the 19th century term for these mansions is "mock-baronial".
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Btw, the 19th century term for these mansions is "mock-baronial".
Noted and cached! Good term to know!
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Now that we have Crimea back, I can add, for Russia, the Swallow's Nest, in Yalta

Not a huge castle, but,, very beautiful.

Crimea also has the Vorontsov Palace at Alupka

and the Genuezskaya Fortress at Sudak

among other nice historic buildings.

So, at least we have taken back plenty of good real estate
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Now that we have Crimea back, I can add, for Russia, the Swallow's Nest, in Yalta

Not a huge castle, but,, very beautiful.

Crimea also has the Vorontsov Palace at Alupka

and the Genuezskaya Fortress at Sudak

among other nice historic buildings.

So, at least we have taken back plenty of good real estate
You haven't taken anything. Putin has, and the last opinion you stated about it was that you were against it.
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You haven't taken anything. Putin has, and the last opinion you stated about it was that you were against it.
I do like the castles though That is Russian history, we have every right to have it back.

And we do. Crimea does not only belong to Putin, it belongs to all of us, all can and many will travel there for vacations and excursions. I am maybe uneasy about it politically. But, sentimentally is a different question. This is the land where our ancient Duke Vladimir was Christened! The Ukrainians have tried to steal our history, even bastardized Vladimir's name into "Volodymyr" or something, in that horrible dialect of theirs; but no matter how hard they may wish it were not so, Vladimir was Russian, not Ukrainian; Kievan Rus was a Russian (and Varyag) creation, not theirs. "Ukrainians" were but a obscure and unknown little tribe, until our ancestors arrived there. Our ancestors built Kiev. Our ancestors took the Crimea first from the Greeks, and then from the Tatars. The Ukrainians, today, can have Kiev, but they have no right to ownership of Crimea, none, at all. Crimea is Russian land. We conquered it, repeatedly, we built everything there, and it is ours, and neither I nor almost anybody else here care what Obama or Cameron think of that. They can go fuck their sanctions. That is all I will say, before I get too emotional and unreasonable.
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