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Michael
Dec 23rd 2009, 11:39 AM
Sceptics expected a whitewash, Geoffrey Wheatcroft writes, but Britain’s Iraq war inquiry has fatally wounded the case for liberal interventions past and future.

When the British prime minister, Gordon Brown, announced the establishment of an inquiry into the Iraq war in June, cynics in London said that it would be a pointless sham telling us nothing we didn’t know already, or even an “establishment stitch-up” in the words of David Cameron, the Conservative leader. Past experience suggested that he might be right.

But with Sir John Chilcot’s hearings less than two weeks old, we have already learnt a great deal. That is partly because, despite Brown’s original intention, the inquiry is being held in public, but also for another reason. What has emerged over and again from the QE II Conference Centre is the sound of scores being settled. Yes, the establishment is in action, all right – and getting its own back on Tony Blair.

Source (http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091203/REVIEW/712039996/1008/)

After this hearing, it wouldn't surprise me to see Tony Blair end up on the trash heap of British history as the most hated PM in British history.

While I always liked/admired Tony Blair, I must say that it seems like he suffered from some mental illness the way he marched Britain into the Iraq war in 2003 despite all sensible people opposing it. When your only political allies are American warmongers, you really have to question the basis of your decisions. Blair didn't - he just took a page from GW Bush's playbook and doubled down on the propaganda.

It was a bad decision then and it is an even uglier decision looking back now.

Good to see the Brits airing out the laundry here. Nothing worse than sweeping this shit under the carpet as it done in the USA. Because of this, chances are the Americans will repeat the enterprise - it is very doubtful that the Brits will.

Zarquon
Dec 23rd 2009, 11:57 AM
Source (http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091203/REVIEW/712039996/1008/)

After this hearing, it wouldn't surprise me to see Tony Blair end up on the trash heap of British history as the most hated PM in British history.

While I always liked/admired Tony Blair, I must say that it seems like he suffered from some mental illness the way he marched Britain into the Iraq war in 2003 despite all sensible people opposing it.
He was a theocrat loon who converted to Catholicism; and did a lot of bs in the name of 'multiculturalism'.
And you can't expect much from the US, given its Congress and the fools who elect most of it.

Americano
Dec 24th 2009, 09:56 AM
He was a theocrat loon who converted to Catholicism; and did a lot of bs in the name of 'multiculturalism'.
And you can't expect much from the US, given its Congress and the fools who elect most of it.

Ah, the forum days of being told I should be kicked out of the country (US) because I was adamantly against the Iraq fiasco and that made me a bad American.

cassandrabandra
Dec 24th 2009, 10:55 AM
Ah, the forum days of being told I should be kicked out of the country (US) because I was adamantly against the Iraq fiasco and that made me a bad American.

Those same people now want their current president to fail. but I guess YOU are still the bad guy!

I guess the thing with this enquiry is that its not, on the surface, telling us anything that reasonably intelligent people didn't already know, or at least suspect to be the truth. In some senses its like a vindication.

I just hope they really do remember this next time someone has a harebrained idea about hunting down WMDs or whatever, as Zarquon suggests, but human beings being human beings - I suspect there'll be a reason for needing to do the same thing next time.

Americano
Dec 24th 2009, 11:30 AM
Those same people now want their current president to fail. but I guess YOU are still the bad guy!

I guess the thing with this enquiry is that its not, on the surface, telling us anything that reasonably intelligent people didn't already know, or at least suspect to be the truth. In some senses its like a vindication.

Vindication would be US lapdog Blair in political historical hell in the Idi Amin wing with Bush and Cheney. But that's not going to happen.

I just hope they really do remember this next time someone has a harebrained idea about hunting down WMDs or whatever, as Zarquon suggests, but human beings being human beings - I suspect there'll be a reason for needing to do the same thing next time.

cassandrabandra
Dec 24th 2009, 12:08 PM
Vindication would be US lapdog Blair in political historical hell in the Idi Amin wing with Bush and Cheney. But that's not going to happen.

being the most hated PM in Britian's history will have to do, I suspect. it probably hurts a lot for someone with a giant ego.

Zarquon
Dec 24th 2009, 12:18 PM
being the most hated PM in Britian's history will have to do, I suspect. it probably hurts a lot for someone with a giant ego.
I don't recall Disraeli or Chamberlain being well-regarded, surely they merit as much hatred as Blair.

gwenstacy961
Apr 18th 2012, 01:37 PM
Hillary says "show me the money!!!" to Syria and Iran!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRw8I8eyQ0M
Very funny video!