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Michael
Jul 14th 2009, 11:10 AM
Stephen Walt of Foreign Policy magazine has been reviewing a book about the 'decline & fall' of the British Empire.

From this, Walt has drawn out ten lessons about imperialism that he thinks Americans can learn from.

Personally, I think the listing is an excellent one.


1. There is no such thing as a "benevolent" Empire.

2. All Empires depend on self-justifying ideology and rhetoric that is often at odds with reality.

3. Successful empires require ample "hard power."

4. As Empires decline, they become more opulent, and they obsess about their own glory.

5. Great Empires are heterogeneous.

6. When building an empire, it's hard to know where to stop.

7. It takes a lot of incompetent people to run an empire.

8. Great Powers defend perceived interests with any means at their disposal.

9. Nationalism and other forms of local identity remain a potent obstacle to long-term imperial control.

10. "Imperial Prestige" is both an asset and a trap.

Read the whole article as each point is described - I've only just listed the points here. Article (http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/07/13/ten_lessons_on_empire)

Point number one needs to be repeated over and over. Points number two and four seem to be quite topical over the last decade.

Americano
Jul 14th 2009, 11:42 AM
I like 7 & 8.

Michael
Jul 14th 2009, 11:46 AM
I like 7 & 8.

Yes, point #7 is a good one. I particularly like the way Walt points out that many British colonial enterprises were run pretty much the same way the Iraqi Provisional Authority was run (2002-2003) - entirely incompetently by politically well connected idiots. That's one of the hallmarks of imperialism and one of its perennial reasons for failure.

Americano
Jul 14th 2009, 12:07 PM
Yes, point #7 is a good one. I particularly like the way Walt points out that many British colonial enterprises were run pretty much the same way the Iraqi Provisional Authority was run (2002-2003) - entirely incompetently by politically well connected idiots. That's one of the hallmarks of imperialism and one of its perennial reasons for failure.

Politically appointed bureaucrats seem to reach their levels of incompetency upon appointment.

drgoodtrips
Jul 14th 2009, 12:25 PM
Politically appointed bureaucrats seem to reach their levels of incompetency upon appointment.

I don't know. I think some of them do a "heck of a job". :lol:

Americano
Jul 14th 2009, 12:32 PM
I don't know. I think some of them do a "heck of a job". :lol:

Brownie?

drgoodtrips
Jul 14th 2009, 12:40 PM
Brownie?

Yeah. That was just the first thing that popped into my head when talking about political appointments and incompetence.

Americano
Jul 14th 2009, 12:55 PM
Like Brownie, Panetta (CIA) is a classic example. No prior intelligence experience, but a 100% party dog who has been rewarded for serving the party.