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rocky.dwf
Jul 27th 2011, 05:37 AM
Hello Everybody!
I am from far off - Bangladesh. That's other side of the globe from USA. When it is 1100 hrs morning in NY, it is 2100 hrs evening the previous day here where I live. I am retired, and am on the right side of getting old.
See you all!
NickKIELCEPoland
Jul 27th 2011, 06:54 AM
Hello Everybody!
I am from far off - Bangladesh. That's other side of the globe from USA. When it is 1100 hrs morning in NY, it is 2100 hrs evening the previous day here where I live. I am retired, and am on the right side of getting old.
See you all!
Welcome welcome! Thanks to Bangladesh, we can have lovely curry meals in England now, and you also have a fine cricket team.
I look forward to hearing more about your cultue :)
I'm half English, half Norwegian, but I live in Poland.
dilettante
Jul 27th 2011, 08:24 AM
Hello Everybody!
I am from far off - Bangladesh. That's other side of the globe from USA. When it is 1100 hrs morning in NY, it is 2100 hrs evening the previous day here where I live. I am retired, and am on the right side of getting old.
See you all!
Welcome, Rocky. Glad to have you. :hatoff:
Americano
Jul 27th 2011, 09:38 AM
Welcome to the forum.
Michael
Jul 27th 2011, 06:24 PM
Hello Everybody!
I am from far off - Bangladesh. That's other side of the globe from USA. When it is 1100 hrs morning in NY, it is 2100 hrs evening the previous day here where I live. I am retired, and am on the right side of getting old.
See you all!
Given that the international dateline runs through the Pacific Ocean, I would think that your timezone would be a day ahead of here. :shrug:
:welcome: Anyway, welcome to the forum.
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SpectateSwamp
Sep 14th 2011, 11:21 AM
I have been hunting forum rigging politicians since I ran in 1993
See "yellowhead speaks 1993" on youtube
It was the yellowhead riding and I painted my head yellow and went after them all.
Now with yourube and cheap video we can make a difference.
Donkey
Sep 14th 2011, 11:31 AM
Er. Welcome aboard.
Americano
Sep 14th 2011, 11:43 AM
I have been hunting forum rigging politicians since I ran in 1993
See "yellowhead speaks 1993" on youtube
It was the yellowhead riding and I painted my head yellow and went after them all.
Now with yourube and cheap video we can make a difference.
Welcome. Who are 'we'?
vishnupriyat
Oct 3rd 2011, 03:18 AM
"Who are you?"
So sayeth the caterpiller...
I am vishnupriyat,i joined in this forum on last saturday:):)
dilettante
Oct 3rd 2011, 08:40 AM
I am vishnupriyat,i joined in this forum on last saturday:):)
Welcome aboard. :hatoff:
vishnupriyat
Oct 4th 2011, 02:08 AM
I am vishnupriyat,from india
FixingTheFuture
Dec 2nd 2011, 08:21 AM
hello,
My name is Josh and I run a website that attempts to discuss politics, world events, future events, and some philosophical subjects some view as controversial. I enjoy the truth and reality, Giving information to people straight up how it truly is and then having a deep conversation about It Is something i find extremely entertaining. I am also a major patriot and believe that the little people can make a difference in the world despite others thoughts. I did not come here to advertise at all I came here to meet people with similar interests. I will be taking part in many conversations that I find interesting throughout this forum. If I am ever in violation of any rule or If I ever upset/offend anyone please send me a cordial message so we can discuss this before action is taken. I assure you I will not purposefully disregaurd any rules or regulations you all may have and I will do my best to respect each and everyone of you! Thanks for reading -Josh AkA FixingTheFuture!
If anyone is interested in reading some of my articles based on the topics i posted above feel free to join in the discussions with me. Here is the website I read the rules and it said posting external sites are allowed within reason. Let me know if sharing my website and articles is not within reason. -Thanks
www.fixingthefuture.webs.com -Let me know what you think! =P
Michael
Dec 2nd 2011, 05:25 PM
hello,
My name is Josh and I run a website that attempts to discuss politics, world events, future events, and some philosophical subjects some view as controversial. I enjoy the truth and reality, Giving information to people straight up how it truly is and then having a deep conversation about It Is something i find extremely entertaining. I am also a major patriot and believe that the little people can make a difference in the world despite others thoughts. I did not come here to advertise at all I came here to meet people with similar interests. I will be taking part in many conversations that I find interesting throughout this forum. If I am ever in violation of any rule or If I ever upset/offend anyone please send me a cordial message so we can discuss this before action is taken. I assure you I will not purposefully disregaurd any rules or regulations you all may have and I will do my best to respect each and everyone of you! Thanks for reading -Josh AkA FixingTheFuture!
If anyone is interested in reading some of my articles based on the topics i posted above feel free to join in the discussions with me. Here is the website I read the rules and it said posting external sites are allowed within reason. Let me know if sharing my website and articles is not within reason. -Thanks
www.fixingthefuture.webs.com -Let me know what you think! =P
:welcome: to the forum Josh. :)
I hope you find some interesting topics here.
We frown on commercial links, but posting links of legitimate interest to the forum members is certainly permitted.
Donkey
Dec 2nd 2011, 09:52 PM
hello,
My name is Josh and I run a website that attempts to discuss politics, world events, future events, and some philosophical subjects some view as controversial. I enjoy the truth and reality, Giving information to people straight up how it truly is and then having a deep conversation about It Is something i find extremely entertaining. I am also a major patriot and believe that the little people can make a difference in the world despite others thoughts. I did not come here to advertise at all I came here to meet people with similar interests. I will be taking part in many conversations that I find interesting throughout this forum. If I am ever in violation of any rule or If I ever upset/offend anyone please send me a cordial message so we can discuss this before action is taken. I assure you I will not purposefully disregaurd any rules or regulations you all may have and I will do my best to respect each and everyone of you! Thanks for reading -Josh AkA FixingTheFuture!
If anyone is interested in reading some of my articles based on the topics i posted above feel free to join in the discussions with me. Here is the website I read the rules and it said posting external sites are allowed within reason. Let me know if sharing my website and articles is not within reason. -Thanks
www.fixingthefuture.webs.com -Let me know what you think! =P
Welcome! Looks like you've already got off to a great start on your postings. Looking forward to reading more from you. :)
FixingTheFuture
Dec 4th 2011, 11:30 PM
Thanks for the open-armed welcome!
Suibhne
Jan 2nd 2012, 04:30 PM
Hey all,
I've been lurking about the forum here and there and finally decided to join. A bit about myself, then...
I'm a Canadian in my mid-20s, and in June (or July?) will be newly furnished with a philosophy degree - although I've just finished my classes this past term. I'm a voracious reader and, since school let out at the beginning of December, have been on a fiction binge - although I've started mixing in some more academic stuff this past week.
I don't readily identify with any particular political schema: not that I lack a standpoint, but that my views as a whole don't tend to fall mostly on one side, the other, or in the middle. Maybe if I really laid it all out, I'd end up in one camp or another... really, I just think the best way to approach any political issue is to ask "what seems right here" instead of, "what is the conservative/liberal/republican/democratic/whatever view".
There's lots more to say, but that's probably pretty good for now. I'm sure you'll all get to know me a bit better (and I you) as I start to contribute to the forum. I look forward to it. My first stop will probably be the 'What are you reading?' thread.
Happy (slightly belated) New Year!
dilettante
Jan 2nd 2012, 04:41 PM
Hey all,
I've been lurking about the forum here and there and finally decided to join. A bit about myself, then...
I'm a Canadian in my mid-20s, and in June (or July?) will be newly furnished with a philosophy degree - although I've just finished my classes this past term. I'm a voracious reader and, since school let out at the beginning of December, have been on a fiction binge - although I've started mixing in some more academic stuff this past week.
I don't readily identify with any particular political schema: not that I lack a standpoint, but that my views as a whole don't tend to fall mostly on one side, the other, or in the middle. Maybe if I really laid it all out, I'd end up in one camp or another... really, I just think the best way to approach any political issue is to ask "what seems right here" instead of, "what is the conservative/liberal/republican/democratic/whatever view".
There's lots more to say, but that's probably pretty good for now. I'm sure you'll all get to know me a bit better (and I you) as I start to contribute to the forum. I look forward to it. My first stop will probably be the 'What are you reading?' thread.
Happy (slightly belated) New Year!
:hatoff:
Welcome aboard! It's always nice to see a lurker come out of the shadows and join the discussion. :)
The Drunk Guy
Jan 2nd 2012, 04:42 PM
Hey all,
I've been lurking about the forum here and there and finally decided to join. A bit about myself, then...
I'm a Canadian in my mid-20s, and in June (or July?) will be newly furnished with a philosophy degree - although I've just finished my classes this past term. I'm a voracious reader and, since school let out at the beginning of December, have been on a fiction binge - although I've started mixing in some more academic stuff this past week.
I don't readily identify with any particular political schema: not that I lack a standpoint, but that my views as a whole don't tend to fall mostly on one side, the other, or in the middle. Maybe if I really laid it all out, I'd end up in one camp or another... really, I just think the best way to approach any political issue is to ask "what seems right here" instead of, "what is the conservative/liberal/republican/democratic/whatever view".
There's lots more to say, but that's probably pretty good for now. I'm sure you'll all get to know me a bit better (and I you) as I start to contribute to the forum. I look forward to it. My first stop will probably be the 'What are you reading?' thread.
Happy (slightly belated) New Year!Welcome aboard. :D
Donkey
Jan 2nd 2012, 05:00 PM
Hey all,
I've been lurking about the forum here and there and finally decided to join. A bit about myself, then...
I'm a Canadian in my mid-20s, and in June (or July?) will be newly furnished with a philosophy degree - although I've just finished my classes this past term. I'm a voracious reader and, since school let out at the beginning of December, have been on a fiction binge - although I've started mixing in some more academic stuff this past week.
I don't readily identify with any particular political schema: not that I lack a standpoint, but that my views as a whole don't tend to fall mostly on one side, the other, or in the middle. Maybe if I really laid it all out, I'd end up in one camp or another... really, I just think the best way to approach any political issue is to ask "what seems right here" instead of, "what is the conservative/liberal/republican/democratic/whatever view".
There's lots more to say, but that's probably pretty good for now. I'm sure you'll all get to know me a bit better (and I you) as I start to contribute to the forum. I look forward to it. My first stop will probably be the 'What are you reading?' thread.
Happy (slightly belated) New Year!
Great to have you!
Americano
Jan 2nd 2012, 08:17 PM
Hey all,
I've been lurking about the forum here and there and finally decided to join. A bit about myself, then...
I'm a Canadian in my mid-20s, and in June (or July?) will be newly furnished with a philosophy degree - although I've just finished my classes this past term. I'm a voracious reader and, since school let out at the beginning of December, have been on a fiction binge - although I've started mixing in some more academic stuff this past week.
I don't readily identify with any particular political schema: not that I lack a standpoint, but that my views as a whole don't tend to fall mostly on one side, the other, or in the middle. Maybe if I really laid it all out, I'd end up in one camp or another... really, I just think the best way to approach any political issue is to ask "what seems right here" instead of, "what is the conservative/liberal/republican/democratic/whatever view".
There's lots more to say, but that's probably pretty good for now. I'm sure you'll all get to know me a bit better (and I you) as I start to contribute to the forum. I look forward to it. My first stop will probably be the 'What are you reading?' thread.
Happy (slightly belated) New Year!
Welcome to the forum.
Michael
Jan 3rd 2012, 05:23 PM
Hey all,
I've been lurking about the forum here and there and finally decided to join. A bit about myself, then...
I'm a Canadian in my mid-20s, and in June (or July?) will be newly furnished with a philosophy degree - although I've just finished my classes this past term. I'm a voracious reader and, since school let out at the beginning of December, have been on a fiction binge - although I've started mixing in some more academic stuff this past week.
I don't readily identify with any particular political schema: not that I lack a standpoint, but that my views as a whole don't tend to fall mostly on one side, the other, or in the middle. Maybe if I really laid it all out, I'd end up in one camp or another... really, I just think the best way to approach any political issue is to ask "what seems right here" instead of, "what is the conservative/liberal/republican/democratic/whatever view".
There's lots more to say, but that's probably pretty good for now. I'm sure you'll all get to know me a bit better (and I you) as I start to contribute to the forum. I look forward to it. My first stop will probably be the 'What are you reading?' thread.
Happy (slightly belated) New Year!
Well here's an even more belated Happy New Year to you too! :party:
And :welcome: to the forum.
As for politics, I don't think "what seems right?" is even relevant to modern politics. The only question that seems viable, is "who benefits?". That question seems to explain our actual political situtations more often than not.
So you are a philosophy grad eh? So what's your principal philosophic interest?
Our philosophy discussions here have been a bit quite lately, but not for a lack of interest, rather a dearth of topics. Please feel free to start (or bump an old thread) for topic you find interesting. We like discussions. :)
Btw, I suspect we might have a mutual acquaintance in common (i.e. Tom).
Suibhne
Jan 3rd 2012, 08:27 PM
Well here's an even more belated Happy New Year to you too! :party:
And :welcome: to the forum.
As for politics, I don't think "what seems right?" is even relevant to modern politics. The only question that seems viable, is "who benefits?". That question seems to explain our actual political situtations more often than not.
So you are a philosophy grad eh? So what's your principal philosophic interest?
Our philosophy discussions here have been a bit quite lately, but not for a lack of interest, rather a dearth of topics. Please feel free to start (or bump an old thread) for topic you find interesting. We like discussions. :)
Btw, I suspect we might have a mutual acquaintance in common (i.e. Tom).
You're right, I don't think the 'what seems right' attitude applies to the way modern politics are run, either; but that's the way I try to figure out what my own views are. Of course, as soon as you ask what the right position is, it brings in the question of 'who benefits', too - among others, surely (e.g., 'how will this decision affect other decisions I'll have to make' or 'what does our current political/social position allow for'). Unfortunately, I don't have much current/relevant political knowledge beyond pop culture and reading the news: I'm working on it.
My philosophic interests have jumped around quite a bit over the past few years. However, one stable theme I've been particularly interested in is Canadian identity - mainly because I'm Canadian, and also because it's weird and interesting: my philosophic interests have been largely directed by this overarching interest. So I've looked at a lot of attempts to diagnose modern identity - or describe historically the invention of individual identity, national identity, and what forces have contributed to a Canadian identity (if there is such a thing, as opposed to being several things at odds with each other). I've tried to stay away from psychological or psychoanalytical views because they often seem as if they're pulled from nowhere - or out of very shifty readings of historical texts.
Otherwise, whatever catches my fancy. I entered the world of philosophy through good fiction and interesting history, so that led me all over the place.
I've been working my way through some of the philosophy posts. If I don't bump or reply to one, I probably will start something.
As for that mutual acquaintance: spot on.
Michael
Jan 4th 2012, 06:12 PM
You're right, I don't think the 'what seems right' attitude applies to the way modern politics are run, either; but that's the way I try to figure out what my own views are. Of course, as soon as you ask what the right position is, it brings in the question of 'who benefits', too - among others, surely (e.g., 'how will this decision affect other decisions I'll have to make' or 'what does our current political/social position allow for'). Unfortunately, I don't have much current/relevant political knowledge beyond pop culture and reading the news: I'm working on it.
Rhetorical question: what is the difference between "pop culture" and "the news"? Most of the newscasts I see on tv are all about the weather, celebrity gossip and consumer reports. And that's the CBC National News. The others are worse. Newspapers aren't much better. I get 90% of my news off the net these days. :shrug:
My philosophic interests have jumped around quite a bit over the past few years. However, one stable theme I've been particularly interested in is Canadian identity - mainly because I'm Canadian, and also because it's weird and interesting: my philosophic interests have been largely directed by this overarching interest. So I've looked at a lot of attempts to diagnose modern identity - or describe historically the invention of individual identity, national identity, and what forces have contributed to a Canadian identity (if there is such a thing, as opposed to being several things at odds with each other). I've tried to stay away from psychological or psychoanalytical views because they often seem as if they're pulled from nowhere - or out of very shifty readings of historical texts.
Otherwise, whatever catches my fancy. I entered the world of philosophy through good fiction and interesting history, so that led me all over the place.
I came at philosophy from studying ancient Greek history. :shrug:
I've been working my way through some of the philosophy posts. If I don't bump or reply to one, I probably will start something.
There's quite a few good discussions in there. :)
But please feel free to start a new thread on any topic that interests you.
Suibhne
Jan 4th 2012, 09:30 PM
Rhetorical question: what is the difference between "pop culture" and "the news"? Most of the newscasts I see on tv are all about the weather, celebrity gossip and consumer reports. And that's the CBC National News. The others are worse. Newspapers aren't much better. I get 90% of my news off the net these days. :shrug:
Well, rhetorical or not, I have an answer for you here. Firstly, the internet is really the only place to get at news anymore, and usually outside of mainstream news sites: you're right that whether on TV or in the papers, there's more fluff than anything else. Now, secondly, I'm not sure how many young adults you talk to, but you're lucky if they make any active access to a news source.
So when I draw a distinction between 'pop-culture' and 'news' I mean to point to the difference between what I hear through casual conversation (usually, if anything, about those big and often depressing stories) and what I gather from general internet news sources (usually filtered through news forums to get rid of any of that fluff).
I came at philosophy from studying ancient Greek history. :shrug:
There's quite a few good discussions in there. :)
But please feel free to start a new thread on any topic that interests you.
Right-on. I did a little bit of Latin and Classical Greek in university... not that I was any good at it. So... Plato or Aristotle?
Michael
Jan 4th 2012, 10:54 PM
Well, rhetorical or not, I have an answer for you here. Firstly, the internet is really the only place to get at news anymore, and usually outside of mainstream news sites: you're right that whether on TV or in the papers, there's more fluff than anything else. Now, secondly, I'm not sure how many young adults you talk to, but you're lucky if they make any active access to a news source.
So when I draw a distinction between 'pop-culture' and 'news' I mean to point to the difference between what I hear through casual conversation (usually, if anything, about those big and often depressing stories) and what I gather from general internet news sources (usually filtered through news forums to get rid of any of that fluff).
Your point is well made. :)
Though I stand by my original assertion - pop culture and 'the news' are one and the same. ;)
Right-on. I did a little bit of Latin and Classical Greek in university... not that I was any good at it. So... Plato or Aristotle?
Plato, absolutely. Aristotle is probably far more significant for science and theology (and logic), but Plato is simply sublime when it comes to ethical philosophy.
But when I say Plato is my favorite, that doesn't mean I'm a Platonist at all. Rather, I'm an anti-Platonist. Plato is the ultimate love/hate relationship. One learns to think by learning to hate Plato. :)
Suibhne
Jan 5th 2012, 10:13 PM
Plato, absolutely. Aristotle is probably far more significant for science and theology (and logic), but Plato is simply sublime when it comes to ethical philosophy.
But when I say Plato is my favorite, that doesn't mean I'm a Platonist at all. Rather, I'm an anti-Platonist. Plato is the ultimate love/hate relationship. One learns to think by learning to hate Plato. :)
Before university or in first year, I would have said Aristotle, hands down. Now I'm much more partial to Plato myself, but I inherited a very interesting perspective on reading Plato.
What if Plato wrote all of his dialogues almost as a joke... as a satire of sorts? He has this character Socrates (whether or not Socrates is a historical figure as recorded) who makes all kinds of different, often silly, arguments. Plato never takes credit for the ideas: Socrates could very well be a teaching tool Plato used to test his students. (Something similar to Berkeley's Dialogues Between Hylas and Philonous.)
Aristotle didn't get the memo.
Donkey
Jan 5th 2012, 10:47 PM
From my limited reading, I tend to prefer Aristotle's philosophical leanings. Not his take on women, iirc, though.
Michael
Jan 6th 2012, 06:23 PM
Before university or in first year, I would have said Aristotle, hands down. Now I'm much more partial to Plato myself, but I inherited a very interesting perspective on reading Plato.
What if Plato wrote all of his dialogues almost as a joke... as a satire of sorts? He has this character Socrates (whether or not Socrates is a historical figure as recorded) who makes all kinds of different, often silly, arguments. Plato never takes credit for the ideas: Socrates could very well be a teaching tool Plato used to test his students. (Something similar to Berkeley's Dialogues Between Hylas and Philonous.)
Aristotle didn't get the memo.
:lol:
That's cute, but the available [admittedly limited] evidence doesn't support it. Plato himself was born of the highest aristocratic class in Athens - the one class that hated democracy - and all of Plato's Socratic ideas favor rule by the elite class.
Secondly, most of Plato's dialogues are written long before the creation of Plato's academy (which comes after the death of Socrates - and in response to the death of Socrates).
Thirdly, Plato's later post-Socratic works continue to carry the same themes.
On this basis, I can't accept your fanciful view of Plato. Besides, Plato's Socratic arguments are just too good to be simple teaching tools.
Michael
Jan 6th 2012, 06:25 PM
From my limited reading, I tend to prefer Aristotle's philosophical leanings. Not his take on women, iirc, though.
No doubt you'd prefer Plato's take on 'the community of women' as objects to be shared! :lol:
Btw, it is very common for non-philosophy students to prefer Aristotle. Philosophy types usually go for Plato. :shrug:
Donkey
Jan 6th 2012, 06:27 PM
No doubt you'd prefer Plato's take on 'the community of women' as objects to be shared! :lol:
Btw, it is very common for non-philosophy students to prefer Aristotle. Philosophy types usually go for Plato. :shrug:
One thing I read a while back, can't remember the source, was "Plato didn't know what to do with women so he turned them into men. Aristotle just hated them."
Michael
Jan 6th 2012, 06:32 PM
One thing I read a while back, can't remember the source, was "Plato didn't know what to do with women so he turned them into men. Aristotle just hated them."
That's a reasonably fair assessment. :D
That being said, higher class men from ancient Greece are not very good on the topic of women, to say the least. We are talking about a nation that practically invented homosexuality and maintained strict separation of the sexes. :lol:
Suibhne
Jan 6th 2012, 07:04 PM
:lol:
That's cute, but the available [admittedly limited] evidence doesn't support it. Plato himself was born of the highest aristocratic class in Athens - the one class that hated democracy - and all of Plato's Socratic ideas favor rule by the elite class.
Secondly, most of Plato's dialogues are written long before the creation of Plato's academy (which comes after the death of Socrates - and in response to the death of Socrates).
Thirdly, Plato's later post-Socratic works continue to carry the same themes.
On this basis, I can't accept your fanciful view of Plato. Besides, Plato's Socratic arguments are just too good to be simple teaching tools.
I know... but that's no fun.
Lo Deos Nuevo
Jan 9th 2012, 03:49 PM
I am highly skilled in physics and math of many types and do much spiritual interaction such as spiritual travel loving and debate about whetever presents the most need for my abilities i also participate in spiritual ibteractions i was warned not to discuss
Buzz25
Feb 23rd 2012, 06:03 PM
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MeMyselfAndI
Feb 23rd 2012, 06:07 PM
Hi. Im a marketing consultant from Hawaii..
Sup people ?
Hawaii... the dream paradise where people here in Russia dream to go one day. And most, including me, never do. :lol:
Welcome.
Michael
Feb 23rd 2012, 06:17 PM
Hi. Im a marketing consultant from Hawaii..
Sup people ?
:welcome: Or should I say, 'hi ho?' :lol:
Michael
Feb 23rd 2012, 06:21 PM
Hi. Im a marketing consultant from Hawaii..
Sup people ?
Btw, since you are into marketing, could you possibly explain the logic of why so many companies from India might want to post signature links here at this forum? Like what possible benefit could they derive from that? They do it with such frequency and professionalism that I believe they have to be a paid service. And they just get deleted. And they keep trying. :shrug:
Any idea about how that kind of marketing is supposed to work? Curious minds want to know! :lol:
Americano
Feb 23rd 2012, 09:45 PM
Hi. Im a marketing consultant from Hawaii..
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Howzit bro? (five years as a local hauole; Oahu [windward side] and Maui [Upper Kula]).
Lee Kushal
Mar 4th 2012, 02:41 AM
Hello, i am Lee Kushal. i am a Chinese, living in Bangalore, ageing in early 40s.
i became fond of China, and became one among its citizens, after coming under the influence of Mao Zedong, Confucius and most importantly, the mesmerizing charm of -the looks and the lifestyle- ethnic Chinese.
i hold such Radical views regarding global issues, that both indans and isams, be condemned to Hitler style persecution camps.
and fully endorse American supremacy and leadership, in the global arena.
Other than politics, i am smitten by the mind boggling avenues, thrown open for the Rationalists to endeavor in the cause of establishing a science civilization, in totality.
in this regard, i subscribe to what Karl Marx gave- the philosophy of Dialectic materialism. the vast material universe, eventually gave birth to idea and such abstractions of life.
Hope, the Forum, finds my ways likable.
NickKIELCEPoland
Mar 4th 2012, 03:11 AM
Hello, i am Lee Kushal. i am a Chinese, living in Bangalore, ageing in early 40s.
i became fond of China, and became one among its citizens, after coming under the influence of Mao Zedong, Confucius and most importantly, the mesmerizing charm of -the looks and the lifestyle- ethnic Chinese.
i hold such Radical views regarding global issues, that both indans and isams, be condemned to Hitler style persecution camps.
and fully endorse American supremacy and leadership, in the global arena.
Other than politics, i am smitten by the mind boggling avenues, thrown open for the Rationalists to endeavor in the cause of establishing a science civilization, in totality.
in this regard, i subscribe to what Karl Marx gave- the philosophy of Dialectic materialism. the vast material universe, eventually gave birth to idea and such abstractions of life.
Hope, the Forum, finds my ways likable.
Welcome to the forum, good Sir :)
By the way, do you think they should open gay nightclubs in China?
shekib82
Mar 4th 2012, 03:30 AM
Hello, i am Lee Kushal. i am a Chinese, living in Bangalore, ageing in early 40s.
i became fond of China, and became one among its citizens, after coming under the influence of Mao Zedong, Confucius and most importantly, the mesmerizing charm of -the looks and the lifestyle- ethnic Chinese.
i hold such Radical views regarding global issues, that both indans and isams, be condemned to Hitler style persecution camps.
and fully endorse American supremacy and leadership, in the global arena.
Other than politics, i am smitten by the mind boggling avenues, thrown open for the Rationalists to endeavor in the cause of establishing a science civilization, in totality.
in this regard, i subscribe to what Karl Marx gave- the philosophy of Dialectic materialism. the vast material universe, eventually gave birth to idea and such abstractions of life.
Hope, the Forum, finds my ways likable.
Are you ethnically Chinese or indian? Also how many languages do you speak? And finally what do you do for a living?
Michael
Mar 4th 2012, 08:33 AM
Hello, i am Lee Kushal. i am a Chinese, living in Bangalore, ageing in early 40s.
i became fond of China, and became one among its citizens, after coming under the influence of Mao Zedong, Confucius and most importantly, the mesmerizing charm of -the looks and the lifestyle- ethnic Chinese.
i hold such Radical views regarding global issues, that both indans and isams, be condemned to Hitler style persecution camps.
and fully endorse American supremacy and leadership, in the global arena.
Other than politics, i am smitten by the mind boggling avenues, thrown open for the Rationalists to endeavor in the cause of establishing a science civilization, in totality.
in this regard, i subscribe to what Karl Marx gave- the philosophy of Dialectic materialism. the vast material universe, eventually gave birth to idea and such abstractions of life.
Hope, the Forum, finds my ways likable.
:welcome: to the forum. :)
dogma
Mar 4th 2012, 02:16 PM
Hello, Im Jack and I am a professional web surfer.
shekib82
Mar 5th 2012, 12:42 PM
Hello, Im Jack and I am a professional web surfer.
cool. what do you mean by professional? do you get paid for surfing?
Michael
Mar 5th 2012, 06:14 PM
cool. what do you mean by professional? do you get paid for surfing?
Indeed, I'm a bit curious about that too!
RBTRob
Mar 6th 2012, 08:48 PM
Hell world, my name is Rob. I'm a semi retired bodyguard and currently a Reality Based Training tactical firearms instructor living in Northern Virginia near Washington DC.
I've traveled a good bit in my career, about 33 countries and most 49 of the US states. I currently do airsoft/strike ball as a hobby, shooting, cooking, eating more yet and travel. Other things are a spot of gunsmithing, beach time and just chatting with people worldwide.
I'm happily married with a son just over 21 years old (he has just discovered drinking oops)
Political views are... they all lie.
Religious views are... well, they all lie. haha
I do try to view the world as a half full glass kind of person, but sometimes think that we broke part of that glass to prevent it from being truly full.
Look forward to chatting with many of you
cheers
MeMyselfAndI
Mar 6th 2012, 08:58 PM
Hell world, my name is Rob. I'm a semi retired bodyguard and currently a Reality Based Training tactical firearms instructor living in Northern Virginia near Washington DC.
I've traveled a good bit in my career, about 33 countries and most 49 of the US states. I currently do airsoft/strike ball as a hobby, shooting, cooking, eating more yet and travel. Other things are a spot of gunsmithing, beach time and just chatting with people worldwide.
I'm happily married with a son just over 21 years old (he has just discovered drinking oops)
Political views are... they all lie.
Religious views are... well, they all lie. haha
I do try to view the world as a half full glass kind of person, but sometimes think that we broke part of that glass to prevent it from being truly full.
Look forward to chatting with many of you
cheers
Welcome. Interesting biography. Your son is just a few years younger than me lol Bodyguard. I suppose I am too, or I was. Well, I've protected him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Krutoy for example. And him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kobzon
All that was before I established my own firm :shrug: So, from one security professional to another, one fatehr to another, and one strikeballer to another, welcome :D
Americano
Mar 6th 2012, 09:03 PM
Hell world, my name is Rob. I'm a semi retired bodyguard and currently a Reality Based Training tactical firearms instructor living in Northern Virginia near Washington DC.
I've traveled a good bit in my career, about 33 countries and most 49 of the US states. I currently do airsoft/strike ball as a hobby, shooting, cooking, eating more yet and travel. Other things are a spot of gunsmithing, beach time and just chatting with people worldwide.
I'm happily married with a son just over 21 years old (he has just discovered drinking oops)
Political views are... they all lie.
Religious views are... well, they all lie. haha
I do try to view the world as a half full glass kind of person, but sometimes think that we broke part of that glass to prevent it from being truly full.
Look forward to chatting with many of you
cheers
Welcome to the forum. I'm in complete agreement with your definition of political and religious views. They are subjective while mostly catering to idealism and insecurity but often make for interesting discussion.
RBTRob
Mar 6th 2012, 09:04 PM
Welcome. Interesting biography. Your son is just a few years younger than me lol Bodyguard. I suppose I am too, or I was. Well, I've protected him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Krutoy for example. And him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kobzon
All that was before I established my own firm :shrug: So, from one security professional to another, one fatehr to another, and one strikeballer to another, welcome :D
Thank you
Yeah I just stepped away from the business about 2 months ago after my last trip to India, It's been just over 22 years now and other similar work before that. I'm opening a new school in October but for now just teaching one one one students.
Sadly, I can't list most of my clientele do to contracts and such but bodyguard is kind of a rough term you know. Modern times they call it a private military/security contractor and just a few years ago much worse names. LOL
Thanks again
RBTRob
Mar 6th 2012, 09:05 PM
I'm in complete agreement with your definition of political and religious views. They are subjective while mostly catering to idealism and insecurity but often make for interesting discussion.
amen to that :)
The Drunk Guy
Mar 6th 2012, 09:42 PM
Hell world, my name is Rob. I'm a semi retired bodyguard and currently a Reality Based Training tactical firearms instructor living in Northern Virginia near Washington DC.
I've traveled a good bit in my career, about 33 countries and most 49 of the US states. I currently do airsoft/strike ball as a hobby, shooting, cooking, eating more yet and travel. Other things are a spot of gunsmithing, beach time and just chatting with people worldwide.
I'm happily married with a son just over 21 years old (he has just discovered drinking oops)
Political views are... they all lie.
Religious views are... well, they all lie. haha
I do try to view the world as a half full glass kind of person, but sometimes think that we broke part of that glass to prevent it from being truly full.
Look forward to chatting with many of you
cheersHowdy! Always nice to see a southerner with his thinking cap on.
Also, sounds like you're the man I need to comment on my pistol thread. I'm still torn on what to buy!
RBTRob
Mar 6th 2012, 09:47 PM
Howdy! Always nice to see a southerner with his thinking cap on.
Also, sounds like you're the man I need to comment on my pistol thread. I'm still torn on what to buy!
About to be even more south as in FL this Oct.
Sure point me to the thread. I've owned and shot just about everything inckuding 50 Cal desert eagle. I'll give you an honest opinion. I'm not much for gun BS lol
The Drunk Guy
Mar 6th 2012, 10:27 PM
About to be even more south as in FL this Oct.
Sure point me to the thread. I've owned and shot just about everything inckuding 50 Cal desert eagle. I'll give you an honest opinion. I'm not much for gun BS lol
You can find the thread here (http://www.discussionworldforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3110). Basically, I'm looking for the best pistol under $400.
Michael
Mar 7th 2012, 07:16 AM
Hell world, my name is Rob. I'm a semi retired bodyguard and currently a Reality Based Training tactical firearms instructor living in Northern Virginia near Washington DC.
I've traveled a good bit in my career, about 33 countries and most 49 of the US states. I currently do airsoft/strike ball as a hobby, shooting, cooking, eating more yet and travel. Other things are a spot of gunsmithing, beach time and just chatting with people worldwide.
I'm happily married with a son just over 21 years old (he has just discovered drinking oops)
Political views are... they all lie.
Religious views are... well, they all lie. haha
I do try to view the world as a half full glass kind of person, but sometimes think that we broke part of that glass to prevent it from being truly full.
Look forward to chatting with many of you
cheers
:welcome: to the forum - sounds like you have had an interesting life (so far). :)
RBTRob
Mar 7th 2012, 10:09 AM
:welcome: to the forum - sounds like you have had an interesting life (so far). :)
I have, thank you. :)
I joke all the time to my wife, if I thought I'd have lived this long, I would have taken way better care of myself. I'm just now attempting to get back into good shape and health. I had cancer a few years ago and ended up gaining a ton of weight after treatment (you know the going from active and eating alot to non active and still eating alot haha)
Michael
Mar 7th 2012, 05:39 PM
I have, thank you. :)
I joke all the time to my wife, if I thought I'd have lived this long, I would have taken way better care of myself. I'm just now attempting to get back into good shape and health. I had cancer a few years ago and ended up gaining a ton of weight after treatment (you know the going from active and eating alot to non active and still eating alot haha)
Yes, the dreaded curse of 'trying to lose weight' - that's a challenge lots of people are facing (half of Americans it seems!). It is doubly difficult one to deal with when one isn't young with a high metabolism!
Btw, I think your political and religious viewpoints will fit well in here - "they all lie" is a common ideological position around this forum on those topics! :lol:
Non Sequitur
Mar 7th 2012, 06:39 PM
Btw, I think your political and religious viewpoints will fit well in here - "they all lie" is a common ideological position around this forum on those topics! :lol:
I seem to be an outlier :sneaky:
Michael
Mar 7th 2012, 06:41 PM
I seem to be an outlier :sneaky:
I said it was a common position, not the only one. ;)
Btw, have you cut loose from supporting those religion hating Republicans yet?
Non Sequitur
Mar 7th 2012, 07:10 PM
I said it was a common position, not the only one. ;)
Btw, have you cut loose from supporting those religion hating Republicans yet?
oh yeah. I didn't even vote in the primary in Michigan because I cannot, in good conscience, vote for any of the Republicans...
Donkey
Mar 7th 2012, 07:28 PM
Btw, I think your political and religious viewpoints will fit well in here - "they all lie" is a common ideological position around this forum on those topics! :lol:
To be fair, I don't think most religious people lie about their faith and belief.
I just think they are wrong. ;)
Michael
Mar 7th 2012, 07:51 PM
To be fair, I don't think most religious people lie about their faith and belief.
I just think they are wrong. ;)
Yes, to be fair, that is probably more correct. Most religious people do appear to be quite genuine in their faith.
RBTRob
Mar 7th 2012, 08:00 PM
Yes, to be fair, that is probably more correct. Most religious people do appear to be quite genuine in their faith.
Actually I find people who say one thing and do another are hypocrites and therefore liars. Its not their belief, its how they express it. Same for politicians.
The Drunk Girl
Mar 7th 2012, 11:46 PM
Welcome RBTRob!
I was born in Fairfax,VA and lived in Manassas when I was younger. :shrug:
I'm TDGuy's counterpart and I'm rarely serious so I hope you have a good sense of humor. ;)
I'm with the rest as well: seems like you'll fit in just fine
RBTRob
Mar 8th 2012, 09:07 AM
Welcome RBTRob!
I was born in Fairfax,VA and lived in Manassas when I was younger. :shrug:
I'm TDGuy's counterpart and I'm rarely serious so I hope you have a good sense of humor. ;)
I'm with the rest as well: seems like you'll fit in just fine
Thank you.
I try to have a sense of humor. Maybe not what others always find funny. It has gotten me in trouble many, many times.
I'm living in Berryville at the moment on a nice small Farm estate. I love the countryside, love the cattle, love having my own outdoor shooting ranges but hate long commuting all the freaking time just to get something. Still it's less of a commute than my old 24hr to work ones when I worked overseas haha Still I can't wait to move back to the beach in Florida.
One of our girls here on the farm http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj316/The_Citizen_Rob/20110323_5.jpg
Iolo
Apr 17th 2012, 12:05 PM
S'mae - I'm married, four children, interests beer (CAMRA member), politics, gardening, walking, writing verse, painting and Cymraeg, our language, which my parents spoke and I had to learn for myself. I was born in Gwent, near Caerdydd/Cardiff but my family came from the (then fairly revolutionary) Rhondda, to which we moved when I was five, leaving it for the two-hundred-years-more-backward area of Welsh Shropshire when I was in my teens. As a student I was taught by F.R. Leavis and have myself taught in schools, teacher training and university. I have been a member of three political parties as well as having been Secretary of my University Socialist Club - I was secretary of a SWP Branch, Constituency Membership Sec of a local Labour Party, and now I'm in Plaid Cymru, our National Party. I'm older than most hills: they call me 'Sir'.
Donkey
Apr 17th 2012, 12:30 PM
What is CAMRA?
Iolo
Apr 17th 2012, 01:15 PM
What is CAMRA?
Campaign for Real Ale.
Donkey
Apr 17th 2012, 01:36 PM
Campaign for Real Ale.
I support this!
Michael
Apr 17th 2012, 05:53 PM
S'mae - I'm married, four children, interests beer (CAMRA member), politics, gardening, walking, writing verse, painting and Cymraeg, our language, which my parents spoke and I had to learn for myself. I was born in Gwent, near Caerdydd/Cardiff but my family came from the (then fairly revolutionary) Rhondda, to which we moved when I was five, leaving it for the two-hundred-years-more-backward area of Welsh Shropshire when I was in my teens. As a student I was taught by F.R. Leavis and have myself taught in schools, teacher training and university. I have been a member of three political parties as well as having been Secretary of my University Socialist Club - I was secretary of a SWP Branch, Constituency Membership Sec of a local Labour Party, and now I'm in Plaid Cymru, our National Party. I'm older than most hills: they call me 'Sir'.
That's a colorful resume! :lol:
I recall travelling the 'scenic route' up to Stratford-on-Avon from London once - it isn't very far, maybe two hours out London. It amazed me the way it seemed we were going back in time. We saw some villages that looked unchanged since the 17th century. :eek:
I can only imagine what 'backwoods' Wales would be like! :lol:
Anyway, welcome to the forum. Ale-loving political animals are certainly welcome here (no matter what your age). Actually, we have a few members of the 'retirement' age.
NickKIELCEPoland
Apr 17th 2012, 05:57 PM
Iolo, you're not Neil Kinnock are you?
Iolo
Apr 18th 2012, 06:05 AM
Iolo, you're not Neil Kinnock are you?
You looking for a punch-up? :)
NickKIELCEPoland
Apr 18th 2012, 07:30 AM
You looking for a punch-up? :)
I thought you would take it as a compliement ;)
Iolo
Apr 18th 2012, 01:05 PM
I thought you would take it as a compliement ;)
You thought wrongly. I am a patriot, not a crawler.
Michael
Apr 18th 2012, 05:41 PM
You thought wrongly. I am a patriot, not a crawler.
I take that Kinnock isn't popular in Wales?
(I know very little about the fellow other than the fact that he's an ex-Labour Party leader).
Iolo
Apr 19th 2012, 08:37 AM
That's a colorful resume! :lol:
I recall travelling the 'scenic route' up to Stratford-on-Avon from London once - it isn't very far, maybe two hours out London. It amazed me the way it seemed we were going back in time. We saw some villages that looked unchanged since the 17th century. :eek:
I can only imagine what 'backwoods' Wales would be like! :lol:
.
As a colonial territory, it has obviously been heavily looted, but as the first majority-industrial country on earth it is not particularly 'backwoods'. Think rustbelt with wonderful scenery.
Iolo
Apr 19th 2012, 08:41 AM
I take that Kinnock isn't popular in Wales?
(I know very little about the fellow other than the fact that he's an ex-Labour Party leader).
Apart from beginning the big Labour sellout to the tories, he also told lies about our language and opposed Devolution. Apologies to NickKIELCEPoland - I'd not be hot on foreign politicians either. I only met Kinnock once, and at the time I was, though a member of his Party (I was living in England), canvassing for his opponent, with several other comrades. I was as unimpressed as I'd expected!
NickKIELCEPoland
Apr 19th 2012, 10:37 AM
Apart from beginning the big Labour sellout to the tories, he also told lies about our language and opposed Devolution. Apologies to NickKIELCEPoland - I'd not be hot on foreign politicians either. I only met Kinnock once, and at the time I was, though a member of his Party (I was living in England), canvassing for his opponent, with several other comrades. I was as unimpressed as I'd expected!
I don't regard myself as foreign to Britain. I'm half-British half-Norwegian, born in England, and have lived for many years in the North West.
I fail to see which of my statements can have in any way influenced your thoughts about my knowledge or otherwise of British politics.
Iolo
Apr 19th 2012, 10:51 AM
I don't regard myself as foreign to Britain. I'm half-British half-Norwegian, born in England, and have lived for many years in the North West.
I fail to see which of my statements can have in any way influenced your thoughts about my knowledge or otherwise of British politics.
I just thought I might have seemed rude. 'English' is quite foreign enough for me. There was a certain poetic justice about the fact that the groveller Kinnock was rejected by his masters for being 'Welsh'.
NickKIELCEPoland
Apr 19th 2012, 10:54 AM
I just thought I might have seemed rude. 'English' is quite foreign enough for me. There was a certain poetic justice about the fact that the groveller Kinnock was rejected by his masters for being 'Welsh'.
No, I don't think you were rude. BUt when you said "I'd not be hot on British politicians either" I thought you were remarking on my knowledge of British politics.
The thing I like about Kinnock is that he seems to really CARE, whether you agree with him or not.
Just listen to the passion in this interview... (among other things, he tells the interviewer that "you've got a bloody cheek to say that"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGhPvVb3dak
kali_spn
Apr 30th 2012, 02:29 AM
I am a engineer from India. My discipline is information technology and industry type is hardware and networking. My passion is gathering details about world politics.
shekib82
Apr 30th 2012, 12:26 PM
I am a engineer from India. My discipline is information technology and industry type is hardware and networking. My passion is gathering details about world politics.
what do you then do with the details you have gathered?
Michael
Apr 30th 2012, 05:42 PM
I am a engineer from India. My discipline is information technology and industry type is hardware and networking. My passion is gathering details about world politics.
:welcome: to the forum.
Michael
Apr 30th 2012, 05:43 PM
what do you then do with the details you have gathered?
Good question! :)
Misha_87
May 16th 2012, 06:08 AM
Hi, I'm Misha ... I live in Moscow. I'M here to see more about how people in other countries and places think and see life . Hope to make friends too
NickKIELCEPoland
May 16th 2012, 07:17 AM
Hi, I'm Misha ... I live in Moscow. I'M here to see more about how people in other countries and places think and see life . Hope to make friends too
Hello, Misha :)
Welcome to the forum - we already have one Russian who lives in Moscow, but he is actually from the countryside.
What do you think about Putin?
Donkey
May 16th 2012, 09:25 AM
Hi, I'm Misha ... I live in Moscow. I'M here to see more about how people in other countries and places think and see life . Hope to make friends too
Welcome!
This place is wonderfully diverse and increasingly so!
Americano
May 16th 2012, 10:30 AM
Hi, I'm Misha ... I live in Moscow. I'M here to see more about how people in other countries and places think and see life . Hope to make friends too
Welcome to the forum.
Michael
May 16th 2012, 05:32 PM
Hi, I'm Misha ... I live in Moscow. I'M here to see more about how people in other countries and places think and see life . Hope to make friends too
:welcome: to the forum. We too would like to hear more about how people in other countries and places think and see life - Russia in particular. :)
akida7
May 18th 2012, 08:36 AM
I'll go first!
My name is Michael (go figure), and I am the owner and administrator of the forum. I was born and raised in Toronto Canada, and slave away most of my precious time as a general manager type dude at a small manufacturing company. I'm a 40ish Gen-x kind of guy, with degrees in political science and philosophy (BA, MA), and a passion for online debate and discussion on a wide variety of topics - most of which are covered in the forum topic listings!
As for my politics, suffice it to say that conservatives usually perceive me to be a liberal while liberals almost always consider me to be far too conservative. That is to say, I am rather confortable in the mushy middle ground of pragmatism on most issues.
And truth be told, I also have a fondness for the many colorful characters of Lewis Carroll's classic, "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland", from which the title of this thread comes. :)
congratulations! now i know who you are. I now respect you as an authority on this site. congratulation you have become a social network maker. a young socialite. ofcourse I obey only to you. thank you. cause you are the holder of authority.
akida7
May 18th 2012, 08:50 AM
Hello, Misha :)
Welcome to the forum - we already have one Russian who lives in Moscow, but he is actually from the countryside.
What do you think about Putin?
putin was the Russian former president. I heard the russian public hate him so much. is he ever do any mistakes to the public of russia?
but I also heard the good news about him. when he raised the welfare index in russia few years ago.
that's it.
Michael
May 18th 2012, 05:25 PM
putin was the Russian former president. I heard the russian public hate him so much. is he ever do any mistakes to the public of russia?
but I also heard the good news about him. when he raised the welfare index in russia few years ago.
that's it.
Putin is the current President of Russia.
akida7
May 19th 2012, 02:15 AM
Putin is the current President of Russia.
pardon me.. yes, i mixed up with medvedev the prime minister.. hey come on I just mixed up, doen't mean i don't know if putin still occupy as a president. yeah that's what I mean.. whatever it is he still has a power in front of russian people. and still have a fan. haha
Donkey
May 19th 2012, 09:42 AM
pardon me.. yes, i mixed up with medvedev the prime minister.. hey come on I just mixed up, doen't mean i don't know if putin still occupy as a president. yeah that's what I mean.. whatever it is he still has a power in front of russian people. and still have a fan. haha
To be fair he just took back the presidency.
akida7
May 20th 2012, 01:50 AM
To be fair he just took back the presidency.
so? what you think of him? is there something wrong?
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