Yes please in my back yard?

[Donkey]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8092059.stm

Of course, it would be a lot easier if the Democrats weren't lining up in the fail parade with the Republicans. It seems to me that Obama is going to have to persuade Europeans to take all of the prisoners sans concessions of any sort from the United States of Paranoia.

Fucksticks.

[Donkey]

How is it that Palau has bigger balls than the US?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8092502.stm

[Michael]

Bigger balls than everywhere except Hardin, Montana that is!

However, that's absurd. It doesn't take 'balls' to accept those particular prisoners (Ulghars) that pose no threat to anyone (except US government propaganda efforts).

Seriously, this issue is beyond silly. The US corrections system already (routinely) incarcerates some of the meanest, nastiest and dangerous motherfuckers on the planet.

This issue elevates US partisanship to a whole new level of insane stupidity.

[Donkey]

Bigger balls than everywhere except Hardin, Montana that is!

However, that's absurd. It doesn't take 'balls' to accept those particular prisoners (Ulghars) that pose no threat to anyone (except US government propaganda efforts).

Seriously, this issue is beyond silly. The US corrections system already (routinely) incarcerates some of the meanest, nastiest and dangerous motherfuckers on the planet. Oh, definitely agreed. In fact, I am of the opinion that you could turn most of them out on US streets without much concern for real security threats.


This issue elevates US partisanship to a whole new level of insane stupidity.
It reminds me of the war on drugs in the eighties, when the Democrats and the Republicans were scrabbling to get on the wrong side of the issue.

[partofme]

I have a friend that was in the national guard. His unit was for M.P.s (military police) and he spent about a year at Guantanamo. He also had to tour a maximum security prison here in Kentucky from time to time because his unit would have to be activated if a riot ever broke out there and they where needed. He said that just touring the prison here was much scarier than Guantanamo by a long shot.

[dilettante]

I have a friend that was in the national guard. His unit was for M.P.s (military police) and he spent about a year at Guantanamo. He also had to tour a maximum security prison here in Kentucky from time to time because his unit would have to be activated if a riot ever broke out there and they where needed. He said that just touring the prison here was much scarier than Guantanamo by a long shot.

I wouldn't be surprised if the quality of life in Guantanamo (for those just being held, not interrogated) were better than that in most max security prisons. I wonder if that will come up.

[partofme]

I wouldn't be surprised if the quality of life in Guantanamo (for those just being held, not interrogated) were better than that in most max security prisons. I wonder if that will come up.


The only thing he said that really fit with some of the stories he has heard was the forced feeding through a tube down the throat for those on hunger strike and was aware of sleep deprivation being used. Other than that he heard stories but didn't see anything first hand but he was just a guy guarding them so he probably wouldn't have seen interrogations anyway.

[Americano]

Oh, definitely agreed. In fact, I am of the opinion that you could turn most of them out on US streets without much concern for real security threats.

On many inner-city US streets their security as a stranger would be the major issue.


It reminds me of the war on drugs in the eighties, when the Democrats and the Republicans were scrabbling to get on the wrong side of the issue.

[The Drunk Guy]

I have a friend that was in the national guard. His unit was for M.P.s (military police) and he spent about a year at Guantanamo. He also had to tour a maximum security prison here in Kentucky from time to time because his unit would have to be activated if a riot ever broke out there and they where needed. He said that just touring the prison here was much scarier than Guantanamo by a long shot.
I have friends and family working in FBP facility here. I can easily see why it's so fucking scary compared to Guantanamo: cell blocks have one guard at a time with free-roaming inmates numbering near 200. Fuck that shit.

[Americano]

I have friends and family working in FBP facility here. I can easily see why it's so fucking scary compared to Guantanamo: cell blocks have one guard at a time with free-roaming inmates numbering near 200. Fuck that shit.

I had a guy working for me (landscaping for cash) who had spent 26-years in prisons for various offenses ranging from armed robbery to murder. A career criminal from the age of 13 with a career criminal father, he said the only hard prison time he served was in a supermax, where total and complete submission was achieved with brute force and isolation.

He stated that in 'regular' state prisons the gangs were in control to an extent that actually provided more order than guards could ever achieve. He was covered with prison tats and each one of them had a purpose. As a senior Aryan Brotherhood member, he had tats that provided him with immediate prison brewed booze, drugs, special foods and absolute protection from other inmates and guards. He also stated that 50% of the guards in 'regular' prisons were always ready to supply whatever prisoners wanted.

[The Drunk Guy]

He also stated that 50% of the guards in 'regular' prisons were always ready to supply whatever prisoners wanted.I don't know about the gang situation in Fed pens, but I have heard many tales of guards making some extra cash catering to the inmates. The Feds are pretty tough on their guards, though. If they suspect one is smuggling something, they do a strip search before their shift can be started. And, if something were found, it's a federal crime.

There was a fellow that got busted with a carton of cigarettes (cigarettes are contraband in Fed pens, now) in his duffel bag: 25 years. Of course, I don't blame him...that carton was worth $4,000.

[The Drunk Guy]

Oh, and, in reference to the title of this thread....that's what she said.


:D

[Donkey]

I had a guy working for me (landscaping for cash) who had spent 26-years in prisons for various offenses ranging from armed robbery to murder. A career criminal from the age of 13 with a career criminal father, he said the only hard prison time he served was in a supermax, where total and complete submission was achieved with brute force and isolation.

He stated that in 'regular' state prisons the gangs were in control to an extent that actually provided more order than guards could ever achieve. He was covered with prison tats and each one of them had a purpose. As a senior Aryan Brotherhood member, he had tats that provided him with immediate prison brewed booze, drugs, special foods and absolute protection from other inmates and guards. He also stated that 50% of the guards in 'regular' prisons were always ready to supply whatever prisoners wanted.Probably partially a result of our simply massive prison populations.

Oh, and, in reference to the title of this thread....that's what she said.


:DTouche.

[Americano]

Probably partially a result of our simply massive prison populations.

It is. Several states now fund incarceration with larger amounts of tax revenue than their higher education receives. It takes big-time money to sustain the highest per-capita rate of incarceration in the developed world.