View Full Version : Best US POTUS, decided by consensus
drgoodtrips
Mar 19th 2009, 10:51 PM
I don't know if any of you have ever seen this game before, but I thought it could spice things up a little here, even with the largely classic liberal to progressive bent around here.
The idea is this. What I'm going to post in the next post is a list of all of the POTUS ever in the US with a list of scores next to their names. You either pick a POTUS that you like/admire/whatever and give him an extra point, or pick one that you dislike and take away a point. You can do this as many times as you like, but you are on your honor only to do this once in a 24 hour period. There is no cap to how high a POTUS score can go, but once a POTUS reaches 0, he is removed from the list.
In the end, a consensus will likely be reached, by hook or by crook. Everyone may agree, or a war of attrition may ensue where, if you don't show up for a few days, your horse is down to 0. ;)
drgoodtrips
Mar 19th 2009, 11:02 PM
This is the master list.
1 George Washington (20)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (20)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Clevelan (Democrat) (20)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (20)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (20)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (20)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (20)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
Now, at this point, you'll take the quoted block of text and change one of the numbers, as I will demonstrate with my first entry. You can explain the reason for your selection at lenght, or be enigmatic. You can add points or subtract points for any reason - maybe you just subtract points from one of them not because you have anything against him, but you just don't think he deserves to be in the conversation with others. Anything goes (within the stated honor-system rules).
drgoodtrips
Mar 19th 2009, 11:04 PM
1 George Washington (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (20)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Clevelan (Democrat) (20)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (20)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (20)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (20)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (20)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
I gave Washington a point (please denote in bold) because Washington is like the king of America and I don't want to be one of those America-hating pinkos that think Thomas Jefferson owned slaves or any of the other shit you'll learn in book-lovin' liberal-factory colleges.
drgoodtrips
Mar 19th 2009, 11:07 PM
Also, please feel free to post and discuss as much as you please. The rule about once a day only applies to each person altering the list. So, in accordance, I can't make another list alteration until tomorrow evening.
drgoodtrips
Mar 19th 2009, 11:09 PM
One more thing, and then I'll stop transparently raising my post count. If anyone wants to do this with other things, it's equally fun - greatest bands ever, world leaders, favorite cars, etc.
dilettante
Mar 19th 2009, 11:16 PM
Originally Posted by MasterList
1 George Washington (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Clevelan (Democrat) (20)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (20)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (20)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (20)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (20)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
Well, since Washington has a point already today, I'm awarding one to Adams. I don't think he's the best president in US history, but I'll give him a point because (IMO) he's under appreciated and his preserved writings make for entertaining reading.
Donkey
Mar 19th 2009, 11:24 PM
Er... you guys both forgot to deduct a point from somebody.
drgoodtrips
Mar 19th 2009, 11:29 PM
It's an either/or proposition - at least the variety I've seen.
wphelan
Mar 19th 2009, 11:43 PM
I like this game. I've never seen it before.
1 George Washington (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Clevelan (Democrat) (20)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (20)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (20)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (20)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (20)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
I'll do a cheap one to begin. W.H. Harrison failed at president because he failed at living.
Donkey
Mar 20th 2009, 12:01 AM
It's an either/or proposition - at least the variety I've seen.
Oh... I thought you took away from one and added to one so that somebody ended up with alllll the points.
wphelan
Mar 20th 2009, 12:14 AM
Oh... I thought you took away from one and added to one so that somebody ended up with alllll the points.
That might not be a bad way to run it because I have a feeling I'll mostly be subtracting points. If were solely up to me, the winner might just be stuck with their original twenty points :lol:
drgoodtrips
Mar 20th 2009, 12:19 AM
I'd imagine the other way would be interesting as well. I believe this way gives people more room to strategize over their own horse(s) and probably takes longer. The players are left to decide whether they want to spend their 'capital' building up a lead for the ones they like or getting rid of others, since there is not a zero sum game with the points.
Donkey
Mar 20th 2009, 12:23 AM
I'd imagine the other way would be interesting as well. I believe this way gives people more room to strategize over their own horse(s) and probably takes longer. The players are left to decide whether they want to spend their 'capital' building up a lead for the ones they like or getting rid of others, since there is not a zero sum game with the points.
A fair point. How do you know when it ends?
Michael
Mar 20th 2009, 10:09 AM
1 George Washington (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (20)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (20)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (20)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (20)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
I think the list needs to be pruned first. :)
P.S. I wonder how long it will be before we come down to the showdown between Lincoln & FDR?
I also took the liberty of giving poor "Grover Clevelan" his "d" back that he lost after his first term in office. ;)
dilettante
Mar 20th 2009, 10:20 AM
I think the list needs to be pruned first. :)
P.S. I wonder how long it will be before we come down to the showdown between Lincoln & FDR?
I also took the liberty of giving poor "Grover Clevelan" his "d" back that he lost after his first term in office. ;)
Heh, I wonder if one Grover will long outlast the other.
drgoodtrips
Mar 20th 2009, 11:03 AM
A fair point. How do you know when it ends?
When there's only one name left.
drgoodtrips
Mar 20th 2009, 11:04 AM
I think the list needs to be pruned first. :)
P.S. I wonder how long it will be before we come down to the showdown between Lincoln & FDR?
I also took the liberty of giving poor "Grover Clevelan" his "d" back that he lost after his first term in office. ;)
lol... I had all kinds of problems with the list formatting. I copied it from a site I found, and there was some kind of inline jpg that I had to delete. Once I deleted it though, there was no cursor. So, I was editing the entire list sans cursor, which is surprisingly difficult.
Donkey
Mar 20th 2009, 01:14 PM
1 George Washington (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (20)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (20)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (20)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (20)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
I will deduct one point from President Harding sucking.
Dominick
Mar 20th 2009, 03:04 PM
1 George Washington (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (20)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (20)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (20)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (19)
I deducted one from Reagan. Bush is too obvious and should only be in a list of shadow presidents. Reagan lies at the root of the financial madness of the last two-three decades and that claim of 'winning' the Cold War is second in megalomaniac arrogance only to "L'état, c'est moi".
I took the liberty of sorting the list according to points. Feel free to undo that if it's less convenient. Note also that I know next to nothing about the majority of these people.
drgoodtrips
Mar 20th 2009, 04:59 PM
Yeah, I thought this game might be a bit "America-centric"... we could start another one about world leaders or something more universal, in addition to this. Though one of the fun (or maddening) parts of the game is that you don't really need to know anything - justification is not necessary for your selection :)
dilettante
Mar 20th 2009, 05:41 PM
I deducted one from Reagan. Bush is too obvious and should only be in a list of shadow presidents. Reagan lies at the root of the financial madness of the last two-three decades and that claim of 'winning' the Cold War is second in megalomaniac arrogance only to "L'état, c'est moi".
Did Reagan himself claim to have "won" the cold war? I thought that was just the mythos created by his zealous worshipers.
bug
Mar 20th 2009, 07:32 PM
1 George Washington (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (20)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (20)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (20)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (19)
For being Animal Planet's "Most X-Treme!!" violator of 1st Amendment rights
Michael
Mar 20th 2009, 07:48 PM
Did Reagan himself claim to have "won" the cold war? I thought that was just the mythos created by his zealous worshipers.
Damn good point.
Reagan was already out of office (1981-88) when the Berlin Wall came down (1989), so its quite unlikely that Reagan publically claimed 'winning the cold war' - he certainly didn't do it as President.
On this basis, I'm inclined to think that 'myth' was entirely created by his worshippers.
(And I'm not normally one to defend Reagan - indeed, I'll have to put him down a notch tomorrow just to salve my conscience here!).
wphelan
Mar 21st 2009, 03:48 AM
1 George Washington (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (20)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (20)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (19)
Now the fun begins. FDR goes down a notch for Japanese internment camps.
drgoodtrips
Mar 21st 2009, 12:31 PM
1 George Washington (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (20)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (20)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (19)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (18)
...because when the dust settles, it sure ain't gonna be him. I'm just speeding along the inevitable.
Dominick
Mar 21st 2009, 01:36 PM
Did Reagan himself claim to have "won" the cold war? I thought that was just the mythos created by his zealous worshipers.
To be honest, I don't really care :) In either case it's one of those sayings that have made AA & AI (American Arrogance and American Ignorance) proverbial all over the world. If Al Gore had made the list, he'd get a few too regardless whether it's him or his aides or his supporters where the claims originate. It's called responsability :angel:
Dominick
Mar 21st 2009, 01:45 PM
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2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (20)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (20)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (19)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (18)
For the annexation of Hawai. Possibly the starting point of the CIA-style dirty games abroad.
Note : I'll do one a day. I'm not going to check whether it's been exactly 24 hours or not.
Donkey
Mar 21st 2009, 03:16 PM
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3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (20)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (19)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (18)
Bay of Pigs...
dilettante
Mar 21st 2009, 09:50 PM
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4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (20)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (18)Civil Rights Act of 1964
Donkey
Mar 21st 2009, 09:57 PM
Civil Rights Act of 1964
I got so used to people deducting that I had to do a double take. :lol:
Michael
Mar 22nd 2009, 08:46 AM
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4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
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24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (19)
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37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
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39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (18)
Because he was as bad as Bush.
wphelan
Mar 22nd 2009, 03:24 PM
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4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
FDR get knocked down again for the complete mess that was the National Industrial Recovery Act and the formation of the National Recovery Administration. The gross unconstitutionality of the act was eventually recognized by the Supreme Court in a unanimous decision, but I think the damage it did to the economy gets overlooked.
dilettante
Mar 22nd 2009, 05:29 PM
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36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (17) Well, as long as we're gunning for FDR: Judiciary Reorganization Bill of 1937.
http://newdeal.feri.org/court/toons/091.jpg
wphelan
Mar 22nd 2009, 06:12 PM
Well, as long as we're gunning for FDR: Judiciary Reorganization Bill of 1937.
http://newdeal.feri.org/court/toons/091.jpg
That was going to be my next one. :D
Dominick
Mar 22nd 2009, 08:20 PM
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36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (17)
For actually using WMD's
partofme
Mar 22nd 2009, 08:32 PM
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3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (17)
Did nothing about the southern succession and made war unavoidable.
Donkey
Mar 22nd 2009, 08:40 PM
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36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (17)
Trail of Tears. (Shares this sweet honour with Jackson.)
Dominick
Mar 22nd 2009, 08:49 PM
Trail of Tears. (Shares this sweet honour with Jackson.)
We'll bring several of these men to naught when exhausting Native American treatment no doubt :)
Michael
Mar 23rd 2009, 09:51 AM
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36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (18)
Because the thought of FDR lower on this scale than GW Bush is criminally insane. :eek:
dilettante
Mar 23rd 2009, 05:54 PM
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1 George Washington (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (18)
For being the only one of the first 5 American Presidents not to own slaves; the next non-slave owner was his son, John Quincy.
Michael
Mar 24th 2009, 10:07 AM
2 John Adams (Federalist) (22)
1 George Washington (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (20)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (18)
I'll say that's for the 1937 Court Bill. ;)
drgoodtrips
Mar 24th 2009, 11:10 AM
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1 George Washington (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
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Because however he winds up doing, it's certainly too early to give him the kind of accolade being sought here.
Greendruid
Mar 24th 2009, 12:21 PM
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Jefferson was a lay archaeologist who declared that, based on his observations of the great mounds surrounding the Mississippi, the aboriginal people of this land must have been a great nation. He was the first to suggest this as a reasonable explanation rather than declaring that white people must have been there earlier and were wiped out by the "savages" who were ancestral to today's aboriginal groups. It took balls to say that in the 1760s.
wphelan
Mar 24th 2009, 12:40 PM
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My pal FDR goes down again for the Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1933. Besides being ruled unconstitutional and beginning the policy of farm subsidies, the act of destroying crops and livestock in the midst of a depression in which people were going hungry is, well...criminally insane. ;)
Dominick
Mar 24th 2009, 02:34 PM
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My friend the actor again, por el pueblo del Salvador.
partofme
Mar 24th 2009, 03:39 PM
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He inherited possibly the biggest mess this country has seen and got us through it.
Michael
Mar 25th 2009, 10:44 AM
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Ditto on the inheriting mess thing.
partofme
Mar 25th 2009, 01:01 PM
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Too many reasons to name and I had to take at least one away from him during this.
Dominick
Mar 25th 2009, 01:50 PM
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Yes, him again. This time for Nicaragua. (and yes, there's more to come :D).
dilettante
Mar 25th 2009, 06:29 PM
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12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
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20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
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23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
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26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
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37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
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42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (19)
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40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (17)
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Retiring in 1786 and establishing the precedent of the 2 term president who does not stay in office till death.
wphelan
Mar 25th 2009, 08:45 PM
Retiring in 1786 and establishing the precedent of the 2 term president who does not stay in office till death.
I'm going to bump FDR again for being the kind of guy to buck that precedent. :D
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Michael
Mar 25th 2009, 09:02 PM
I'm going to bump FDR again for being the kind of guy to buck that precedent. :D
:fence:
:notworthy: to FDR.
Michael
Mar 26th 2009, 10:54 AM
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7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
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11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
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14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
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27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
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32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (19)
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31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (19)
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33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (17)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (17)
Because having FDR squeezed between Reagan and GW Bush is an insult to America.
drgoodtrips
Mar 26th 2009, 11:33 AM
I'm taking this as an opportunity to pick out a different POTUS that I don't know all that much about and spend a few minutes educating myself. So, today, I give a bump to James K. Polk.
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35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (17)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (17)
While I'm not a fan of endorsing Manifest Destiny, his second-largest expansion of American territory in history went a long way toward giving us the America we have today. He did it be successful (aggressive) diplomacy regarding the British. He also founded the Smithsonian, started the stamp-based USPS, and other important domestic achievements. He established free trade for a time, and, in general, was quite successful in terms of achieving his goals and delivering on what he set out to do.
dilettante
Mar 26th 2009, 01:33 PM
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19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (17)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (17)
Because I think FDR should have to earn his points in this game, just like everyone else. :D
Donkey
Mar 26th 2009, 02:12 PM
1 George Washington (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (22)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (17)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (17)
I give Thomas Jefferson a point for being a good ol' fashioned liberal.
Dominick
Mar 26th 2009, 09:52 PM
1 George Washington (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (22)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (16)
One more for the cowboy. Let's say Guatemala this time. I'm not just being silly. These countries deserve to be enumerated. The policies towards meso-America by Reagan killed hundreds of thousands and impoverished millions. E.g. in El Salvador the 'anti-communist quest for freedom' resulted in a fascist junta for 15 years. Having 'bad' dictators and 'good' dictators may work with part of the domestic audience but it definitely cuts no ice abroad.
dilettante
Mar 27th 2009, 02:45 PM
1 George Washington (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (22)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (16)
Indian Removal Act of 1830.
wphelan
Mar 27th 2009, 03:03 PM
1 George Washington (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (22)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (16)
So many choices...
I'll take a break from my Roosevelt bashing and take Herbert Hoover down a notch. There's a lot of reasons I could give for this, but today I think I'll go with his authorization of Mexican Repatriation.
Donkey
Mar 27th 2009, 04:59 PM
1 George Washington (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (22)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (16)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (16)
I'll take a shot at GWB, just cause I don't think I have yet.
partofme
Mar 27th 2009, 06:20 PM
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
1 George Washington (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (22)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (16)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (16)
Thomas Jefferson for being so influential as one of the founding fathers.
Dominick
Mar 28th 2009, 12:25 AM
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
1 George Washington (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (22)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (20)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (16)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (16)
Bill gets a point for his personality.
Donkey
Mar 28th 2009, 05:40 PM
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
1 George Washington (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (22)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (16)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (16)
Daddy Bush loses a point for Panama.
dilettante
Mar 28th 2009, 11:32 PM
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
1 George Washington (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (22)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (16)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (16)
For appointing Rodger B. Taney to the Supreme Court.
dilettante
Mar 31st 2009, 06:55 PM
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
1 George Washington (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (16)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (16)
The Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways.
SMadsen
Apr 1st 2009, 06:53 AM
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
1 George Washington (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (16)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (16)
Nixon for being the most paranoid person I've ever seen holding a public office.
Dominick
Apr 2nd 2009, 10:39 AM
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
1 George Washington (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (19)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
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Bush, the chimp, for utterly and totally destroying all the goodwill towards the US after 9/11.
drgoodtrips
Apr 2nd 2009, 11:15 AM
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For essentially waffling his way out of his own party's nomination for a second term on the subject of expansion of slavery into new territories. Compromise is good when it gets things done, but compromise to pass the buck isn't impressive.
dilettante
Apr 5th 2009, 11:39 PM
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As the first VP promoted upon the death of the sitting president, he created the "Tyler Precedent" which clarified part of the US Constitution which left it unclear as to whether the VP actually became president or merely acted as president until an election was held. He wasn't the best president once he was in office, but he did manage to avoid a potentially disastrous constitutional crisis following Harrison's death.
wphelan
Apr 6th 2009, 12:54 PM
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I mentioned this already, but paying farmers to destroy crops and livestock in the middle of a depression really is crazy. It would be like paying people to start tearing down houses today because house prices are too low. Destroying real, tangible wealth like that is just absurd. When people are already suffering in the midst of a depression, it's criminal.
partofme
Apr 6th 2009, 07:12 PM
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I took another point from W. I don't like Reagan but at least he could accomplish his goals while Bush is somebody I disagree with and was also a complete fuck up.
Dominick
Apr 9th 2009, 12:34 PM
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-1 for Wilson for invading the Dominican Republic. Seriously, I take that personally.
And -10000 for Wikipedia for not even mentioning this in the article on Wilson.
bug
Apr 9th 2009, 06:28 PM
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For lack of action during the rise of McCarthyism and the Rosenbergs
drgoodtrips
Apr 14th 2009, 07:39 PM
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Because (vapidly), when reading about his demeanor and general approach to things, I find him quite entertaining.
dilettante
Apr 14th 2009, 07:51 PM
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Demoting Jefferson for being a real jerk with regard to poet and scientist Phyllis Wheatley and Ben Beneker, respectively, whom I've been reading about this week (also 'cause I wanted to level out the founding fathers).
partofme
Apr 14th 2009, 08:03 PM
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+1 for Lincoln. Given the crisis he handled it would be a shame if Eisenhower, Johnson, and Polk beat him.
wphelan
Apr 15th 2009, 12:56 AM
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John Adams loses a point for the Alien and Sedition Acts. No matter what else he did, the attack on free speech by the sedition portion of the acts is really awful.
Dominick
Apr 16th 2009, 10:57 PM
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F. it. I'm giving Obama a preliminary thumbs down. He reminds me more and more of Sarkozy. Talk, talk, talk. Very little content. I know it's early days and if I have a reason to do so I will redress the :thumbsdown:
Michael
Apr 18th 2009, 10:41 PM
-1 for Wilson for invading the Dominican Republic. Seriously, I take that personally.
:rofl:
That's priceless!
(I shouldn't talk, I have a softspot for the Byzantine Empire because they had Emperors named Michael!) :D
SMadsen
Apr 21st 2009, 06:54 AM
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What Partofme said in #79 (http://www.discussionworldforum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6674&postcount=71)
phungus420
Apr 21st 2009, 11:18 PM
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43 George W. Bush (Republican) (13)Not many people turn down absolute power in order to set a precedent for limited government. Washing deserves serious props here. One could even make a reasonable argument that had Washington accepted the crown, the current world political structure, where liberal representative governments dominate, would not exist.
wphelan
May 1st 2009, 11:32 PM
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FDR goes down a notch because I feel like it and because he gave us a ponzi scheme that would make Bernie Madoff salivate with jealousy.
wphelan
May 6th 2009, 11:19 PM
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I'm an equal-opportunity basher (sort of) so I'll knock W down a point for the little mess that is Iraq.
Evangeline
May 9th 2009, 01:33 PM
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Let's just get the worst one off of the list first thing. ;)
Evangeline
May 11th 2009, 06:34 PM
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+1 Jimmy Carter - for bringing lasting peace between Egypt and Israel.
wphelan
May 13th 2009, 01:22 AM
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I took him down a notch for the AAA of 1933 already. This time it's for the AAA of 1938. I will never understand how anyone who thought it would be a good idea to limit food production while people were going hungry can be considered a great president. It's beyond my comprehension.
Evangeline
May 13th 2009, 02:26 AM
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-1 for Hoover who supported prohibition calling it an experiment "noble in purpose".
Dominick
May 14th 2009, 08:17 AM
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1 down for Ronnie for his consistent support of South Africa's apartheid regime.
Note: I find it hard to find non hagiographic information about the pre WW II presidents. Rewrite history much ? :angel:
Evangeline
May 15th 2009, 12:34 AM
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I'll take James Monroe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Monroe) down one for taking land from the Choctaw Indians.
partofme
May 15th 2009, 12:39 AM
-1 for Hoover who supported prohibition calling it an experiment "noble in purpose".
I'll drink to that. :D
Evangeline
May 15th 2009, 12:44 AM
I'll drink to that. :D
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Cheers!
dilettante
May 15th 2009, 08:52 AM
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Johnson loses a point for trying to block the Fourteenth Amendment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion).
Evangeline
May 22nd 2009, 01:36 AM
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Transcript of taped conversation between President Richard Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman (1971) that led to the HMO act of 1973:
Ehrlichman: "Edgar Kaiser is running his Permanente deal for profit. And the reason that he can - the reason he can do it - I had Edgar Kaiser come in - talk to me about this and I went into it in some depth. All the incentives are toward less medical care, because -"
President Nixon: [Unclear.]
Ehrlichman: " the less care they give them, the more money they make."
President Nixon: "Fine." [Unclear.]
Evangeline
Jun 7th 2009, 02:29 AM
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40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (10)
Bush - down one for making Cheney the VP
drgoodtrips
Jun 28th 2009, 06:32 AM
Quote:
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (11)
I love Big Brother. +1 George W. Bush (though I loathe his presidency). Just to piss off Samantha.
Americano
Jun 28th 2009, 01:02 PM
Any support of Baby Bush would require devious motivation.
Michael
Jun 28th 2009, 01:04 PM
I love Big Brother.
You lie! :D
Any support of Baby Bush would require devious motivation.
Or a large divident portfolio. :shrug:
Evangeline
Jun 29th 2009, 11:11 PM
[/b]I love Big Brother. +1 George W. Bush (though I loathe his presidency). Just to piss off Samantha.
OMG LOL!~!!! I was like WTF? You knucklehead.
Evangeline
Jun 29th 2009, 11:12 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (10)
OK carry on.
Americano
Jun 29th 2009, 11:17 PM
Is Samantha Evangeline?
Evangeline
Jun 29th 2009, 11:17 PM
Is Samantha Evangeline?
Yes :D
Lily
Jun 30th 2009, 08:27 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (9)
Ten votes? I don't think so. I'm knocking one off for his mangling of the English language.
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
He gets no points for coming close to quoting a classic Who song either, although how I wish the country had taken that sentiment to heart in 2004.
Evangeline
Jun 30th 2009, 10:14 PM
Yay for Lily!
LOL!
:P Take that Goodtrips.
Americano
Jun 30th 2009, 11:03 PM
I'll support any rationalization for getting that ugly experience out of my life.
Michael
Jul 1st 2009, 10:03 AM
Ten votes? I don't think so. I'm knocking one off for his mangling of the English language.
All of them started off evenly at 20 (not 0) and have moved up or down from that point. ;)
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (8)
This list can't be taken seriously if it has GW Bush on it.
Lily
Jul 1st 2009, 10:26 AM
All of them started off evenly at 20 (not 0) and have moved up or down from that point. ;)
This list can't be taken seriously if it has GW Bush on it.
I guess I should probably read the OP first, huh? Yeah.
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (8)
I'm giving Eisenhower one for appointing Earl Warren to the Supreme Court.
drgoodtrips
Jul 2nd 2009, 05:15 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (7)
To even things out from the other night.
bug
Jul 2nd 2009, 10:19 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (7)
I deserve to be crucified, I know. I feel very worried about this because I adore this guy, as a man. I like the things he says, I love his wit, I admire his strength, and I wish be around nowadays so I could follow him around and try to be his friend. But I've been interested in the Civil War lately (see travel thread :D) and have been reading a ton about it, studying battles, causes, ect. And I just don't agree with what he did. Buchanan is portryed as such a puss, but he did what I would have done...nothing. "It's a free country" is trite to say, but what's great about that it is that if you don't like it, you can leave. That's what the South was trying to do. Lincoln tried to argue that the Constitution ws a legally binding contract the they were violating, therefore disobeying thelaw, but I don't see that. I see the South as a (though backward and stagnant) colony, feeling like they weren't able to get fair representation in the government, and declaring independence. That sounds a bit like the main point behind America getting started in the first place. I guess it boils down to this...when it comes to state's rights vs centralized power, I always lean in the favor of the states. All things about the atrocity of slavery and the unsustainable way of life aside "You can't go, I won't let you" doesn't seem very American to me.
wphelan
Jul 4th 2009, 05:04 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (7)
I deserve to be crucified, I know. I feel very worried about this because I adore this guy, as a man. I like the things he says, I love his wit, I admire his strength, and I wish be around nowadays so I could follow him around and try to be his friend. But I've been interested in the Civil War lately (see travel thread :D) and have been reading a ton about it, studying battles, causes, ect. And I just don't agree with what he did. Buchanan is portryed as such a puss, but he did what I would have done...nothing. "It's a free country" is trite to say, but what's great about that it is that if you don't like it, you can leave. That's what the South was trying to do. Lincoln tried to argue that the Constitution ws a legally binding contract the they were violating, therefore disobeying thelaw, but I don't see that. I see the South as a (though backward and stagnant) colony, feeling like they weren't able to get fair representation in the government, and declaring independence. That sounds a bit like the main point behind America getting started in the first place. I guess it boils down to this...when it comes to state's rights vs centralized power, I always lean in the favor of the states. All things about the atrocity of slavery and the unsustainable way of life aside "You can't go, I won't let you" doesn't seem very American to me.
Um, yeah. What she said. Abe goes down a point.
Margot
Jul 4th 2009, 11:45 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (7)
Thomas Jefferson gets a point for writing the Declaration of Independence, and then putting up with the shit of his comrades as they hacked the thing apart.
he has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life & liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. this piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain. determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce: and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, & murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them; thus paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.
He also gets that point for having an obsession with fossils, loving waffles and feeling terrible about the Louisiana Purchase. And, also, for the Louisiana Purchase.
dilettante
Jul 5th 2009, 11:23 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (7)
Oh, I have to ding Jefferson a point for railing against the evils of King George maintaining the slave trade while he himself was a tremendous slave-owners actively profiting from that very trade. I think the other slave-owning members of the Congress rightly recognized that such accusations would only make their Declaration pitiably hypocritical.
Lily
Jul 6th 2009, 08:42 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
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While history will judge the outcome, I have to give Pres. Obama a point for hitting the ground running and for tackling some really sticky issues head-on in his first few months in office. Plus, I've never in my lifetime ever described a president as a "hottie."
Margot
Jul 6th 2009, 09:29 AM
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28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
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31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (7)
Because, had that clause remained in the DoI it would have set up a standard for the formation of the United States. Had that clause not been removed this nation could not have maintained slavery, and the Civil War probably would not have happened. It would have been the most proactive antislavery document ever. Had it been maintained.
Evangeline
Jul 6th 2009, 04:38 PM
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29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (7)
JFK up one for ending the Cuban Missle Crisis even when the 'best and the brightest' were telling him to bomb Cuba, and he negotiated with The Soviets to remove the missles we had in Turkey instead.
Michael
Jul 6th 2009, 04:52 PM
JFK up one for ending the Cuban Missle Crisis even when the 'best and the brightest' were telling him to bomb Cuba, and he negotiated with The Soviets to remove the missles we had in Turkey instead.
I doubt if you can find any President on that list whom I hate more than that one.
Giving JFK credit for not starting WW3 over his own stupid political miscalculation to begin with? I don't see much credit to JFK on that issue at all. If anything, it shows JFK to be the monster I've always called him.
JFK makes Nixon look like a 'squeaky-clean' politician who'd never break any rules. And JFK's passion for assassinating foreign leaders who got in his way is anything but admirable. And Vietnam has JFK's name all over it.
And JFK is the symbolic beginning of substance-free politics where image triumphs over substance. He's practically the poster-boy for that trend.
Evangeline
Jul 6th 2009, 08:48 PM
I doubt if you can find any President on that list whom I hate more than that one.
Giving JFK credit for not starting WW3 over his own stupid political miscalculation to begin with? I don't see much credit to JFK on that issue at all. If anything, it shows JFK to be the monster I've always called him.
JFK makes Nixon look like a 'squeaky-clean' politician who'd never break any rules. And JFK's passion for assassinating foreign leaders who got in his way is anything but admirable. And Vietnam has JFK's name all over it.
And JFK is the symbolic beginning of substance-free politics where image triumphs over substance. He's practically the poster-boy for that trend.
Whatever the reason was that created the crisis, he is the one to credit for avoiding a nuclear war. That's just the facts....
Americano
Jul 6th 2009, 10:29 PM
I'm going to agree with Michael on this one. Most historians have long said that JFK's assassination was the only thing that kept him from going down in history as one of the worst US presidents. On one hand he was a product of his father, who made his fortune in bootlegging and subsequent ending of prohibition where he controlled the resulting US hard liquor distribution, a ruthless sequence of events JFK continued with his foreign policy (eliminate those who disagree), and on the other he had a public image which was a complete facade. The USSR was happy to remove their nuclear missiles from Cuba when US nuclear missiles, which predicated and prompted that exercise, were removed from Turkey. Furthermore, anyone who promoted the Vietnam fiasco, as JFK did, is absolute crap on the bottom of my shoe.
Non Sequitur
Jul 7th 2009, 03:09 PM
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33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (7)
Andrew Jackson loses a point for basically his entire presidency. The Mess with the Bank of the United States caused most of the financial panics for the rest of the century, the trail of tears is an embarresment to American history, he directy opposed the Supreme Court ruling, and the Spoils system was a failure.
drgoodtrips
Jul 8th 2009, 01:54 PM
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33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (6)
Just weeding out the riff-raff.
Michael
Jul 8th 2009, 02:04 PM
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39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
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14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
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23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
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30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
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41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (5)
Like I said before, no list with that name on it can be taken seriously.
Non Sequitur
Jul 8th 2009, 07:51 PM
I will not go as far as to defend GWB as a good president, he was far from it, but I would like to note that there are at least 2 presidents on this list that I think were worse than him. I think it is disproportional that Bush is 12 points lower than Jackson and 14 points lower than Buchanan
Lily
Jul 8th 2009, 08:24 PM
Good point. I take Buchanan down a notch for his pro-slavery views and for doing nothing while the country cleaved in two and marched into civil war.
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28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
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40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (7)
drgoodtrips
Jul 8th 2009, 08:30 PM
I will not go as far as to defend GWB as a good president, he was far from it, but I would like to note that there are at least 2 presidents on this list that I think were worse than him. I think it is disproportional that Bush is 12 points lower than Jackson and 14 points lower than Buchanan
Well, the point of the game is to decide on the best POTUS by "last man standing". So, strictly speaking, the order in which candidates are eliminated isn't part of the equation. Personally, I'm interested in narrowing the list some to make the discussions more interesting and spirited. I think we can all agree that GWB ain't gonna be last man standing.
It might be interesting to start the reverse thread about the worst POTUS.
Americano
Jul 8th 2009, 10:26 PM
I will not go as far as to defend GWB as a good president, he was far from it, but I would like to note that there are at least 2 presidents on this list that I think were worse than him. I think it is disproportional that Bush is 12 points lower than Jackson and 14 points lower than Buchanan
Unlike Buchanan and Jackson, the wounds Baby Bush policy inflicted on the US general public and other nations are still open and now badly infected. IMO, with the current economic and foreign policy dilemmas initiated by Bush far from resolution, history could easily put Bush at the bottom of the list with negative points.
Laura Bush was just in our area, with lady friends who call themselves the 'Midland Five' - they all frequently travel together, and all rafted down the Rogue River with two overnight stops. Ten Secret Service Agents is her traveling detail. It was Jr.'s birthday and Laura stated in the interview she text messaged him Happy Birthday. He is a total loser.
Lily
Jul 9th 2009, 07:31 AM
Unlike Buchanan and Jackson, the wounds Baby Bush policy inflicted on the US general public and other nations are still open and now badly infected. IMO, with the current economic and foreign policy dilemmas initiated by Bush far from resolution, history could easily put Bush at the bottom of the list with negative points.
Laura Bush was just in our area, with lady friends who call themselves the 'Midland Five' - they all frequently travel together, and all rafted down the Rogue River with two overnight stops. Ten Secret Service Agents is her traveling detail. It was Jr.'s birthday and Laura stated in the interview she text messaged him Happy Birthday. He is a total loser.
Here in my little corner of redneckopolis, the South of the Confederacy still seems to have sturdy legs. Forget pink flamingos, the Dixie Flag is the lawn ornament de rigueur around these parts. Double points if you display the flag in the back window of your pick-up, along with your NRA sticker, your gun rack and perhaps something proclaiming the promised resurrection of the South. Make no mistake, the people who wave these flags are not mere fashionistas; this is a belief strongly held and goes hand-in-hand with racism. So, Pres. Buchanan's non-action certainly is still relevant in certain company.
Michael
Jul 9th 2009, 10:39 AM
I will not go as far as to defend GWB as a good president, he was far from it, but I would like to note that there are at least 2 presidents on this list that I think were worse than him. I think it is disproportional that Bush is 12 points lower than Jackson and 14 points lower than Buchanan
And where are your vote entries?
I'll certainly agree about Buchanan. Jackson is a bit more complicated (he has pros and cons).
Michael
Jul 9th 2009, 10:40 AM
It might be interesting to start the reverse thread about the worst POTUS.
Perhaps after we get this one narrowed down a bit more... we're just coming up on our first 'elimination' now.
Michael
Jul 9th 2009, 10:42 AM
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11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
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39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
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41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
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25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
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37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (4)
Just helping GWB find his way out the door...
Note: Lily's post above shows GWB at 7 votes which is incorrect - he should be at 5 there.
drgoodtrips
Jul 9th 2009, 11:31 AM
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25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (3)
Helping matters along as well.
Americano
Jul 9th 2009, 12:02 PM
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34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
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16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
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14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
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23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
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41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
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25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (2)
The sooner the better....
Non Sequitur
Jul 9th 2009, 12:38 PM
And where are your vote entries?
I'll certainly agree about Buchanan. Jackson is a bit more complicated (he has pros and cons).
point taken good sir.
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4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (17)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (2)
Buchanan loses a point for failing to do anything about bleeding Kansas.
Evangeline
Jul 9th 2009, 01:15 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (17)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
43 George W. Bush (Republican) (1)
Mission Accomplished (in a GWB sort of way)
Michael
Jul 9th 2009, 01:18 PM
Mission Accomplished (in a GWB sort of way)
Almost. :D
One more negative vote and he's dropped off the list.
Evangeline
Jul 9th 2009, 01:26 PM
Almost. :D
One more negative vote and he's dropped off the list.
That's what I mean. Mission Accomplished, GWB's way. Not quite yet.
Michael
Jul 9th 2009, 01:53 PM
That's what I mean. Mission Accomplished, GWB's way. Not quite yet.
:rofl:
drgoodtrips
Jul 9th 2009, 01:54 PM
To be fair, if it were GWB's method, you should have declared it back when he still had about 17 points ;)
Lily
Jul 9th 2009, 03:13 PM
Just helping GWB find his way out the door...
Note: Lily's post above shows GWB at 7 votes which is incorrect - he should be at 5 there.
Well. Then I penalize him one for my mistake. Et voila!
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (17)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
drgoodtrips
Jul 9th 2009, 04:46 PM
:party:
The first elimination!
Michael
Jul 12th 2009, 11:28 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (16)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
Buchanan because he's overdue for elimination.
Margot
Jul 13th 2009, 08:29 PM
Jefferson magically lost a point?
Michael
Jul 14th 2009, 09:39 AM
Jefferson magically lost a point?
Oh, I have to ding Jefferson a point for railing against the evils of King George maintaining the slave trade while he himself was a tremendous slave-owners actively profiting from that very trade. I think the other slave-owning members of the Congress rightly recognized that such accusations would only make their Declaration pitiably hypocritical.
According to my review of the thread, Jefferson is correct at 22. :)
Margot
Jul 14th 2009, 11:33 AM
According to my review of the thread, Jefferson is correct at 22. :)
I added one back, putting him at 23 again. Because the DoI would have set a standard for slavery in America, meaning that there would have been no civil war or putting off the issue and putting it off.
or was I not allowed to do that?
(pg. 12)
Michael
Jul 14th 2009, 11:49 AM
I added one back, putting him at 23 again. Because the DoI would have set a standard for slavery in America, meaning that there would have been no civil war or putting off the issue and putting it off.
or was I not allowed to do that?
(pg. 12)
Sorry, you are correct. Lily appears to have inadvertently dropped Jefferson's number from 23 down to 22 on page 13 (post# 122).
Jefferson should be at 23.
Lily
Jul 14th 2009, 06:56 PM
Dang. I just screwed up the whole thing by picking up the wrong post to quote, didn't I? Okay. If I ever become President, y'all can ding me one. :)
Michael
Jul 14th 2009, 08:06 PM
Dang. I just screwed up the whole thing by picking up the wrong post to quote, didn't I? Okay. If I ever become President, y'all can ding me one. :)
Yes, we shall do that!
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (16)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
I've corrected Jefferson's count as per above discussion. :)
I've given FDR a vote because he deserves far better company than Reagan, Hoover and Buchanan!
wphelan
Jul 15th 2009, 12:03 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
I'll bump FDR back down because I think he's in apt company with Reagan. Both have acquired a lot of what I consider unworthy praise.
Lily
Jul 15th 2009, 07:44 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
I'm going to try and redeem myself here by quoting the correct list, and I'll give Pres. Obama a point for his recently released healthcare reform plan. It's a good plan, and if he can push it through Congress, he will revolutionize the way healthcare is delivered in this country.
drgoodtrips
Jul 15th 2009, 11:53 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
For being largely unimaginitive with Reconstruction and having a sufficiently scandal-ridden administration as not to be able to get much done.
Non Sequitur
Jul 15th 2009, 06:47 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
for being the general definition of incompetence
Michael
Jul 15th 2009, 08:01 PM
for being the general definition of incompetence
It would seem that our list is in rough shape! I notice that you just 'dinged' Buchanan for a point, yet I see that he's still at 16 as before - as there are TWO entries for #15 Buchanan!
I'm going to repost the list from Non Sequitur's post, and I'm going to deduct a point from Buchanan as per Non Sequitur's post. I will eliminate the 'duplicate' entry for Buchanan and cross our fingers that the list isn't otherwise screwed up! :)
(I don't know where this 'error' occured and I'm not going to bother looking back through because everyone hates Buchanan anyway!) :lol:
Perhaps we should try working with the list in non-quote blocks...
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
drgoodtrips
Jul 16th 2009, 11:55 AM
So, I was reading a bit about Calvin Coolidge this morning, as is my habit to learn while playing this game. I stumbled across this quote:
"Farmers never have made much money," said Coolidge, the Vermont farmer's son, "I do not believe we can do much about it."
(from wikipedia)
Apparently, Coolidge, a middle class sort, opposed the sort of nonsense with farm subsidies that has perpetuated to this day. He favored efforts to modernize agriculture for profit rather than odd games of price fixing and government subsidies. In addition, he seems like a moderate libertarian sort... believing in reducing the scope of government, leaving things up to the states, not being isolationist, but not meddling, and so on and so forth.
So, he gets a point from me.
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
Michael
Jul 16th 2009, 12:59 PM
"Farmers never have made much money," said Coolidge, the Vermont farmer's son, "I do not believe we can do much about it."
So true.
From the beginning of time up until the 1960s, farming has been only barely or marginally profitable.
Since the 1960s, farmers are now one of the highest paid professions, thanks to government subsidies.
We have a similar problem with senior citizens. As it stands now, over 65's are the 2nd richest age-cohort.
Apparently we tax 20 and 30 year olds to ensure that our over 65's can be more wealthy than average working people.
Nice deal if you can get it, and it is typical interest group politics - but there is no justice here.
drgoodtrips
Jul 16th 2009, 01:00 PM
Oops... I just noticed I forgot to un-bold Buchanan. I didn't change him, though.
dilettante
Jul 22nd 2009, 09:07 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
No activity in this game for almost a week. I penalize Obama, as sitting president, one point for this unfortunate state of affairs.
Non Sequitur
Jul 23rd 2009, 03:09 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
24 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
heyes loses a point for ending the railroad strike of 1877 with the army, resulting in 70 people killed by Federal troops.
Lily
Jul 24th 2009, 08:55 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (20)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
Grover Cleveland was listed twice. I took out one listing and I'm penalizing Nixon, because... it was probably his fault.
Michael
Jul 29th 2009, 08:11 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (15)
For never having actually been elected President.
Zarquon
Aug 24th 2009, 04:37 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (14)
For being the anti-govt, anti-intellectual, deregulationist, theocratic moron who created the stupid, dysfunctional, and petty political climate that created most of today's problems.
Americano
Aug 24th 2009, 10:51 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (14)
For being the anti-govt, anti-intellectual, deregulationist, theocratic moron who created the stupid, dysfunctional, and petty political climate that created most of today's problems.
Actors do play roles under direction, I agree with your assessment.
Michael
Aug 25th 2009, 09:47 AM
Actors do play roles under direction, I agree with your assessment.
Then you should have dinged Ronnie down to 13 with your post!
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (20)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (13)
I'll ding Ronnie for being just another rightwinger out to destroy Medicare and Social Security and calling these programs "evil".
drgoodtrips
Aug 25th 2009, 11:49 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (13)
While he seems like an interesting and rather reasonable fellow, I'd say his tenure was too short and impact too minimal to be considered anything close to a great POTUS.
Zarquon
Aug 25th 2009, 04:16 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (15)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (12)
lets get him off the list
Margot
Aug 25th 2009, 09:23 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (14)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (12)
For undermining our checks and balances.
Americano
Aug 25th 2009, 10:47 PM
: 1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (14)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (11)
Standing corrected for a prior omission.
Greendruid
Aug 27th 2009, 04:20 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (14)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (10)
For humiliating our cousins, the chimpanzees, on countless occasions to advance his own career. Oh wait, that was before the presidency. Okay, how about for taking credit for having anything to do with tearing down the Berlin Wall or the political lead-up to such happening.
Zarquon
Aug 28th 2009, 04:40 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (14)
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican) (9)for spreading "govt is the problem" baloney
phungus420
Aug 28th 2009, 10:07 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (22)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
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For reducing earnings in a way that was unsustainable and pushing the republic toward inevitable collapse.
All our problems today are based on Reagan's policies, and if the Republic falls in my lifetime, it'll be Reagan that led to the collapse of one of the greatest countries the world has yet known.
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For giving credence to Falwell and the "Moral" 'Majority'.
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Just for this quote, alone:
Q: “What about the homeless? Do you think you could have done anything for them?”
A: “Well, it’s been so exaggerated. Millions, there aren’t millions. Real research reveals probably 300,000 or less, nationwide. And a lot of those are the type of people that have made that choice. For example, more than 40% of them are retarded, mentally deficient people, that is the result of the ACLU. Look at the girl in NY who went to court after Koch had ordered her to get off the street and be put in a shelter. She went to court and actually fought, under her Constitutional rights, to go on living in that cardboard box on the street.“
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For closing mental institutions in favor of outpatient treatment. Like a psychopathic schizo is going to remember to take meds.
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Iran-Contra, interference in Nicaragua, and fucking up the end game in Afghanistan(see Charlie Wilson's War).
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For supply-side and Bush Sr.
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For orchestrating a coup of, and assassinations in, South Vietnam.
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For killing the Fairness Doctrine, undermining the EPA, and being the buffoon he was in general.
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For authorizing the NRA (National Recovery Administration), which demonstrated FDR's complete lack of all economic and constitutional sense.
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For killing the Fairness Doctrine, undermining the EPA, and being the buffoon he was in general.
I hadn't really heard about Reagan and the Fairness Doctrine, but now that I've read about it, I have to give him a point back for that one.
Michael
Sep 1st 2009, 11:03 AM
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For authorizing the NRA (National Recovery Administration), which demonstrated that FDR knew what the economic problem was and what was needed to fix it.
Personally, I consider vitrolic hatred of FDR to have the intellectual respectability of the Tea Bag movement - created and sponsored by the same super wealthy corporate elites.
USA is a great and admired country - mostly because of FDR's programs. All political attacks on FDR are 'code' for political attacks on Social Security. That is always the elite's number one target. I can't see FDR-bashing as anything but cheerleading for Bush-style Republicanism.
Michael
Sep 1st 2009, 11:12 AM
I hadn't really heard about Reagan and the Fairness Doctrine, but now that I've read about it, I have to give him a point back for that one.
If it wasn't for all the FDR bashing going on, I would have done the same. As much as I loathe Reagan and almost everything he stood for, eliminating that silly "Fairness Doctrine" was a measure of good government.
The government manages the airwaves. I'd rather they charged market rates for the use of them rather than just handing out licenses to politically connected cronies (as is the status quo), but other than that, the content of the airwaves is just an other public market and ought to be free of silly government imposed constraints.
wphelan
Sep 1st 2009, 05:12 PM
I'm honestly interested to hear a defense of the NRA. It's unconstitutional nature aside (in a unanimous decision by the supreme court), how was the NRA's promotion of industry cartels and price and wage fixing good economic policy?
In addition, it was FDR's consolidation of power that paved the way for future presidents, including George W., to abuse presidential authority and makes it easier for corporate elites to influence government.
I literally can't think of one single issue off the top of my head when I supported George W. Bush. I can assure everyone that any criticism of FDR on my part is completely independent from that of any Bush-Republican cheer leading.
Finally, I find the untouchable nature of FDR's legacy held by some as baffling as I do the way Reagan is revered by many. However, as FDR is almost unanimously regarded as one of the two best presidents in history, I am targeting him first in this game.
dilettante
Sep 1st 2009, 06:04 PM
... All political attacks on FDR are 'code' for political attacks on Social Security. That is always the elite's number one target. I can't see FDR-bashing as anything but cheerleading for Bush-style Republicanism.
That seems like something of a false dichotomy, and a rather harsh one at that. FDR may have been a good president, but one hardly had to be a Republican to be critical of some of his decisions. He was a powerful and immensely controversial president; accusing anyone who criticizes him of "cheerleading for Bush-style Republicanism" strikes me as similar to Reagan proponents accusing anyone who attacks their hero or his policies of secretly being a communist.
Michael
Sep 1st 2009, 09:30 PM
That seems like something of a false dichotomy, and a rather harsh one at that. FDR may have been a good president, but one hardly had to be a Republican to be critical of some of his decisions. He was a powerful and immensely controversial president; accusing anyone who criticizes him of "cheerleading for Bush-style Republicanism" strikes me as similar to Reagan proponents accusing anyone who attacks their hero or his policies of secretly being a communist.
There are certainly aspects of FDR's administration that deserve critique - no doubt about that.
However, the decades-long concerted effort by rightwing conservatives in the Republican party, rightwing think-tanks and even in academia to slander everything FDR did, makes such critiques highly suspect.
As such, vague critiques that attack FDR for supporting any liberal policies at all are, in my opinion, typical rightwing partisan bullshit designed for one political purpose - eliminating Social Security by attacking the hero who created it. Every atttempt to slander FDR is an attempt to de-legitimize Social Security program. That's the rightwing goal in attacking FDR.
Critique FDR for the gold confiscation act and I'll agree. Critique FDR for packing the court, and I'll agree. But pretending that FDR caused the Great Depression is just plain partisan bullshit. Faulting FDR for trying to provide for the starving millions is a partisan attack based on hatred of any program that benefits the poor. These kind of attacks do nothing but make America look like a mean and ugly place.
FDR is the symbol of all that is great about America. Attack FDR and you are attacking the reason for America's greatness. That may not be fair, but that's just the position that FDR stands in to a very large number of Americans and an even larger number of non-Americans.
As such, and I do spend a lot of time studying the US rightwing, attacking FDR is a classic codephrase on the rightwing for defining their own. Attacking FDR with viceral hatred is a baseline marker for membership in the US rightwing.
So when I see viceral hatred of FDR and everything he stood for, I see a partisan hatemongering rightwinger. That's just the way it is. I don't think wphelan is that kind of fellow - thus my statement.
dilettante
Sep 1st 2009, 11:20 PM
There are certainly aspects of FDR's administration that deserve critique - no doubt about that.
However, the decades-long concerted effort by rightwing conservatives in the Republican party, rightwing think-tanks and even in academia to slander everything FDR did, makes such critiques highly suspect.
As such, vague critiques that attack FDR for supporting any liberal policies at all are, in my opinion, typical rightwing partisan bullshit designed for one political purpose - eliminating Social Security by attacking the hero who created it. Every atttempt to slander FDR is an attempt to de-legitimize Social Security program. That's the rightwing goal in attacking FDR.
Critique FDR for the gold confiscation act and I'll agree. Critique FDR for packing the court, and I'll agree. But pretending that FDR caused the Great Depression is just plain partisan bullshit. Faulting FDR for trying to provide for the starving millions is a partisan attack based on hatred of any program that benefits the poor. These kind of attacks do nothing but make America look like a mean and ugly place.
FDR is the symbol of all that is great about America. Attack FDR and you are attacking the reason for America's greatness. That may not be fair, but that's just the position that FDR stands in to a very large number of Americans and an even larger number of non-Americans.
As such, and I do spend a lot of time studying the US rightwing, attacking FDR is a classic codephrase on the rightwing for defining their own. Attacking FDR with viceral hatred is a baseline marker for membership in the US rightwing.
So when I see viceral hatred of FDR and everything he stood for, I see a partisan hatemongering rightwinger. That's just the way it is. I don't think wphelan is that kind of fellow - thus my statement.
Interesting. Well, just so long as you agree that one can legitimately criticize FDR without, ipso facto, being a "rightwing conservative" or having secret anti-liberal motivations; that was my concern.
We seem to have a persistent scarcity of right-wing Republican conservatives around here.
Michael
Sep 1st 2009, 11:48 PM
Interesting. Well, just so long as you agree that one can legitimately criticize FDR without, ipso facto, being a "rightwing conservative" or having secret anti-liberal motivations; that was my concern.
Yes, certainly. FDR, like Lincoln and Washington, were truly great presidents, but not without flaws in their policy. No one is perfect.
Indeed, Lincoln is another that is 'iconic' for viceral attacks from rightwing extremists, just like FDR is. Those kinds of attacks strike me as more than just a critique - they seem to be rejections of democracy and America itself. Critique of specific policies are always reasonable. Critiques of everything these iconic figures stand for is what I'm talking about.
Oddly enough, Lyndon Johnson doesn't have the same 'iconic' status, despite his role in Medicare and Civil Rights legislation. :ummm:
We seem to have a persistent scarcity of right-wing Republican conservatives around here.
Yes, it would appear.
I certainly do enjoy discussions/debates with conservatives and Republicans. But the extreme rightwing fanatic type I can do without since they rarely are interested in actual discussion/debates (and thus, are quite unlikely to come here since we generally are focused on meaningful and civil discussions and debates).
And I repeat, my purpose in raising this issue was not to accuse wphelan of being a rabid rightwing extremist, or to suggest such persons weren't allowed here. Rather my purpose in raising this issue was to bring to wphelan's attention the fact that he might be perceived as one and I doubt that would be his intention.
Michael
Sep 2nd 2009, 09:09 AM
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Bump for Andrew Jackson's killing of the Second Bank of the United States. I'm no fan of privately owned central banks.
The problem is that US money elites (Hamiltonians) just re-create a privately owned central bank every time it is eliminated. Thomas Jefferson warned us about this. That's why the US has a privately owned central bank now.
Zarquon
Sep 3rd 2009, 06:51 AM
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not the worst president, but certainly not the greatest.
Margot
Sep 3rd 2009, 01:19 PM
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Down with Jackson because he was once pulled over for recklessly speeding in his carriage. I'm sorry, but a person's driving says a lot about a person and he and his driving both screamed MASSIVE D-BAG.
Zarquon
Sep 3rd 2009, 02:38 PM
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15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (15)
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you quoted an older post, so I'm posting the correct scores, and as per honor system have not modified any scores in this post.
Margot
Sep 3rd 2009, 02:59 PM
you quoted an older post, so I'm posting the correct scores, and as per honor system have not modified any scores in this post.
Golly, thanks!
Zarquon
Sep 4th 2009, 01:35 AM
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wphelan
Sep 4th 2009, 07:47 PM
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For portraying himself as a proponent of limited government but doing very little to deserve such a label. He increased the civilian government workforce, increased government spending by twenty-five percent, ran massive deficits, used the military to interfere in countries around the globe, and is somehow considered a great president by many people. I am happy to be the one to eliminate him.
Zarquon
Sep 5th 2009, 03:03 AM
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Another idiot with an outsized reputation; if any 60's politician deserves credit its LBJ, not JFK.
Zarquon
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Bay of Pigs and the non-existent 'missile gap'
Michael
Sep 7th 2009, 09:09 AM
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For engaging in a tight money policy and high tariffs in response to the 1930 recession. His policies directly turned a recession into the Great Depression.
Michael
Sep 7th 2009, 09:11 AM
Bay of Pigs and the non-existent 'missile gap'
Btw, Reagan was also big on a non-existent 'missile gap' and even bigger on a 'non-existent' Soviet arms buildup (advised by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Pearle - sound familiar?)
Zarquon
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FDR, worse than Buchanan? seriously
Zarquon
Sep 18th 2009, 02:54 PM
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for IN GOD WE TRUST, what a cunt.
Michael
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Bump to FDR for the Lend-Lease Act. And no US President ought to score lower than Buchanan.
Non Sequitur
Sep 21st 2009, 12:57 PM
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because Buchanan needs to get off the list
Zarquon
Sep 22nd 2009, 09:28 AM
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because Buchanan needs to get off the list
yes, he does.
Arkady
Sep 23rd 2009, 12:54 AM
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Zarquon
Oct 5th 2009, 04:06 PM
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get 'em off there!
Michael
Oct 5th 2009, 05:33 PM
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Contributing to the cause of a Civil War can only be defined as "epic fail" for a US President.
Evangeline
Oct 9th 2009, 10:33 PM
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Obama for our Nobel Peace Prize winning President. I'm very proud.
wphelan
Oct 10th 2009, 02:57 AM
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35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (11)
Obama for drone bombing Pakistan. Nothing says 'change' (or peace) like killing people the same way your predecessor did.
Americano
Oct 10th 2009, 12:38 PM
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35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (11)
For supporting permanent US military bases in Iraq.
Zarquon
Oct 10th 2009, 04:54 PM
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19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
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31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (11)
For being all talk and no walk. And just like the Nobel, he doesn't deserve to be on here either.
dilettante
Oct 10th 2009, 06:49 PM
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23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
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38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
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18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
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41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
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29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
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33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (11) Because, just as giving him a Nobel before he accomplishes anything is premature, so too would be eliminating him from the list after less than one year in office.
Evangeline
Oct 10th 2009, 07:12 PM
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22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
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17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
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9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
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33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (11)
Obama for ending torture and working toward nuclear disarmament.
Michael
Oct 11th 2009, 10:42 AM
Because, just as giving him a Nobel before he accomplishes anything is premature, so too would be eliminating him from the list after less than one year in office.
Damn good point! :thumbsup:
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27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
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17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
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41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
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29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
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33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (11)
Chester Alan Arthur (aka #21) takes a hit because he's so fucking obscure I know absolutely nothing about him and have never really encountered his name before seeing this list. :shrug:
Besides, there's lots of obscure fellows riding safe in the 'default 20' position and that sucks when we've got so many 'big names' down in the mid-teens.
Note to self: read up on American Whigs - I don't know much about them and I've always been "whiggish" in old British political terms (probably not the same thing I'm sure!).
Zarquon
Oct 11th 2009, 11:13 AM
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42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
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26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (11)a sitting president cannot be on this list, he can only be here after he's completed his term(s).
Further, he's all talk and no walk.
Evangeline
Oct 11th 2009, 05:04 PM
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36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (11)
I disagree. He's on the list because he's a President of the USA. If he were not on the list, we'd have an incomplete list of Presidents.
Michael
Oct 12th 2009, 10:35 AM
Please be careful to copy the list from the last poster. Looks like Zarquon skipped one because Chester Alan Arthur is back at 20!
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (11)
Benjamin Harrison joins Arthur in the obscurity club.
Zarquon
Oct 12th 2009, 10:37 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (11)
HOPE(and shall I say HYPE) is not the same as ACTION, or PROGRESS.
Michael
Oct 12th 2009, 11:10 AM
HOPE(and shall I say HYPE) is not the same as ACTION, or PROGRESS.
Its not like Obama awarded himself the Nobel Prize. He's the innocent victim of the Nobel Committee's idiocy.
I think it is thus foolish to penalize Obama for being chosen.
Zarquon
Oct 12th 2009, 01:59 PM
I'm referring to his term in office thus far, Michael.
Evangeline
Oct 12th 2009, 10:41 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (11)
Obama up, for taking time to evaluate the Afghan situation before making a decision instead of using his gut, as Bush always did.
Zarquon
Oct 13th 2009, 05:58 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (10)
Evangeline
Oct 16th 2009, 01:16 AM
Did Reagan get bumped off already?
On other boards he's voted best Prez! LOL~! Ok good he's gone, I was going to demote him one for driving out our manufacturing.
Evangeline
Oct 16th 2009, 01:20 AM
Went back and saw how Ronnie slipped right off the list pretty fast. Well done people!
Evangeline
Oct 16th 2009, 01:24 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (20)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (10)
Harrison down for his part in taking the land away from the Native Americans.
Michael
Oct 16th 2009, 10:57 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (10)
+1 to Honest Abe for being a resolute man of principle in a difficult time.
Zarquon
Oct 16th 2009, 01:21 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (9)
Non Sequitur
Oct 16th 2009, 02:46 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (8)
partofme
Oct 16th 2009, 02:49 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (7)
Michael
Oct 17th 2009, 12:34 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (7)
Carter down a point for the Iranian hostage debacle.
Zarquon
Oct 17th 2009, 01:01 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (6)
Michael
Oct 18th 2009, 10:23 AM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (6)
Franklin Pierce takes a hit for being second only to Buchanan in making the Civil War happen.
Btw, here's an interesting link upon the topic of Ranking Presidents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_United_States_Presidents).
Evangeline
Oct 18th 2009, 01:02 PM
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3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (6)
Carter up, for his energy policy. If Reagan were still here I'd take him down for reversing it. Here's the speech.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps_energy.html
Zarquon
Oct 18th 2009, 03:10 PM
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11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
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41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
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9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
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29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
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23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (5)
Non Sequitur
Oct 19th 2009, 12:23 PM
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16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (22)
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11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (5)
for keeping the country together
Zarquon
Oct 19th 2009, 01:53 PM
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11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (4)
Michael
Oct 19th 2009, 09:28 PM
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11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
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22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
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38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
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18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
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23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (4)
Even though he got punked in 1937, I give credit to FDR for understanding the damage that Hooverite policy was doing.
Evangeline
Oct 19th 2009, 09:32 PM
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11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
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41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
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9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
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14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (4)
FDR for the second bill of rights.
http://www.fdrheritage.org/bill_of_rights.htm
Zarquon
Oct 20th 2009, 07:22 AM
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11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (3)
Non Sequitur
Oct 20th 2009, 10:55 AM
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3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (2)
Zarquon
Oct 21st 2009, 07:48 AM
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16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (1)
Michael
Oct 21st 2009, 10:25 AM
I'll leave the final killing blow on Buchanan for Zarquon since he's worked so diligently for that noble goal! ;)
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2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
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44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
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33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (1)
Great general, lousy President.
Zarquon
Oct 22nd 2009, 05:48 PM
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42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
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39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
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30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
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22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
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38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (19)
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17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (18)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (16)
15 James Buchanan (Democrat) (0)
Michael
Oct 23rd 2009, 10:26 AM
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42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
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30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
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17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
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8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (18)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (15)
Because Archie Bunker liked him! :lol:
Zarquon
Oct 23rd 2009, 07:30 PM
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2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
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11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19) 19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (18)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (18)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (15)
unelected, incompetent, and inconsequential.
Zarquon
Mar 24th 2010, 02:14 PM
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11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19) 19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (17)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (18)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (15)
Michael
Mar 24th 2010, 09:40 PM
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11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (18)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (15)
A bump for Andrew Jackson for being one of the only Presidents that I'd honestly liked to have sat down for a beer with. :)
And the story of the origin of the donkey as symbol for the Democratic party shows what Jackson was made of. They don't make politicians like that any more.
Margot
Mar 24th 2010, 11:03 PM
They don't make politicians like that any more.
Vicious, uneducated, cutthroat, mean-spirited, family values sorts of politicians? I beg to differ! We have an abundance. Take some. I implore you.
Michael
Mar 24th 2010, 11:06 PM
Vicious, uneducated, cutthroat, mean-spirited, family values sorts of politicians? I beg to differ! We have an abundance. Take some. I implore you.
Name one "family value" that Andrew Jackson stood for? :D
Margot
Mar 24th 2010, 11:17 PM
Name one "family value" that Andrew Jackson stood for? :D
He's the president known for filling the Whitehouse with vagrant children- that's pro-life in action. There were something like eight of them, plus a dead indian boy. C'mon, really.
Sure, he was involved with the Petticoat affair, and his own marriage was a little off, but in the end he was a family man. Who also got a speeding ticket. Did I ever mention that? Speeding ticket.
dilettante
Mar 24th 2010, 11:37 PM
And the story of the origin of the donkey as symbol for the Democratic party shows what Jackson was made of. They don't make politicians like that any more.
Thank God! :)
Name one "family value" that Andrew Jackson stood for? :D
Well, he was extraordinarily paternalistic and 'chivalrous' in that sense that he wouldn't stand for a woman's name to be slandered in his presence.
Evangeline
Mar 24th 2010, 11:45 PM
1 George Washington (23)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (18)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (15)
Bump up for health care reform. It's a big fucking deal! :lol:
dilettante
Mar 18th 2011, 08:12 PM
1 George Washington (24)
3 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (23)
16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (18)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (15)
A point for Washington to bring this thread back into the light. And also because I was surprised to hear a particular professor (who generally prefers to criticize the "founding founders") go off on a long tangent praising him this week.
dilettante
Mar 19th 2011, 08:52 PM
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16 Abraham Lincoln (Republican) (22)
34 Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican) (21)
2 John Adams (Federalist) (21)
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat) (21)
11 James Knox Polk (Democrat) (21)
42 William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat) (21)
10 John Tyler (Whig) (21)
39 James Earl Carter (Democrat) (21)
26 Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) (21)
30 Calvin Coolidge (Republican) (21)
4 James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (20)
6 John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican) (20)
20 James Abram Garfield (Republican) (20)
22 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) (20)
27 William Howard Taft (Republican) (20)
12 Zachary Taylor (Whig) (19)
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican) (19)
17 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) (19)
13 Millard Fillmore (Whig) (19)
41 George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican) (19)
8 Martin Van Buren (Democrat) (19)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (19)
25 William McKinley (Republican) (19)
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican) (19)
5 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) (19)
21 Chester Alan Arthur (Republican) (19)
23 Benjamin Harrison (Republican) (19)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (19)
14 Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (19)
7 Andrew Jackson (Democrat) (19)
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant (Republican) (18)
9 William Henry Harrison (Whig) (18)
44 Barack Hussein Obama (Democrat) (18)
33 Harry S Truman (Democrat) (18)
28 Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) (18)
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) (18)
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr (Republican) (17)
37 Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (17)
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat) (16)
31 Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican) (15)
...and one more because 25 is a nice number.
Michael
Mar 19th 2011, 08:56 PM
Because of your bump of the topic, I decided to pick a President I knew very little about (one with an untouched score of 20) to see if he deserved a negative or positive bump.
I spent an hour reading a long Wikipedia entry for William Taft. Interesting fellow, interesting career and I couldn't for the life of me decide whether he deserved a + or a - at the end of the day. :shrug:
He seems exactly that - a perfect balance of good and bad (relative to the scale of US Presidents).
I guess I'll be reading about Grover Cleveland, Zachary Taylor and James Garfield next. I know absolutely zero about those fellows.
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