This is why we support Assad

[MeMyselfAndI]

Syrians hoist ‘new flag’ on Russia’s Libya embassy
(AFP)

5 February 2012
TRIPOLI — Crowds of Syrians chanting anti-Russian slogans entered Moscow’s embassy in Tripoli on Sunday and hoisted the new Syrian flag on the building, an AFP journalist and a Syrian activist said.
The journalist said about 200 Syrians entered the embassy and first removed the Russian flag.
The protest came after Moscow and Beijing for the second time vetoed a UN Security Council resolution on the President Bashar Al Assad regime’s crackdown on dissent.
Russia and China also vetoed a Syria resolution last October.
Syrian militants say that at least 6,000 people have been killed since the opposition to the regime erupted in mid-March last year.
Anas Al Khalid, member of the opposition Syrian National Council, told AFP that Syrian demonstrators entered the Russian embassy ‘but there was no violence.’
‘We hoisted the new Syrian flag on the Russian embassy building,’ he said.
On Saturday, the SNC took physical control of the Syrian embassy in central Tripoli.
The takeover of the embassy came after Syrian activists said troops killed more than 230 people overnight Friday by shelling the city of Homs in central Syria, a charge denied by the Damascus government.


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They also burned Chinese flags, so I heard.

I also heard there are now talks here in Moscow of a revenge attack on the Libyan embassy. A few months ago, pro-Qaddafi young people here beat very badly some al-Jazeera reporters from Qatar who came there with the rebel flag. This is not going to go down easily... Russia is not Europa. I tell you wait, there will be an answer, the Libyan embassy here will burn for this...

[shekib82]

the have the right to be angry at the russians but not to vandalize the embassy. Their right to be angry stems from the fact that the Russians and the Chinese are standing against the democratic rights of the Syrian people.

Now, when one looks at the two regimes (the Chinese and the Russian) one understands why they would support dictatorships. But this doesn't make it right, and certainly the peoples of those countries should not support this kind of oppressive foreign policy just like they shouldn't stand for the oppression of these regimes in their own nations.

Putin is a dictator by another name, and the chinese communist party are a totalitarian regime. I wish the russian and the chinese would have a revolution of their own.

[Americano]

the have the right to be angry at the russians but not to vandalize the embassy. Their right to be angry stems from the fact that the Russians and the Chinese are standing against the democratic rights of the Syrian people.

Now, when one looks at the two regimes (the Chinese and the Russian) one understands why they would support dictatorships. But this doesn't make it right, and certainly the peoples of those countries should not support this kind of oppressive foreign policy just like they shouldn't stand for the oppression of these regimes in their own nations.

Putin is a dictator by another name, and the chinese communist party are a totalitarian regime. I wish the russian and the chinese would have a revolution of their own.

Welcome to the forum.

My news regarding Syria is limited to Western Media and blogs facilitated by Al Jazerra. What I'm reading in blogs is a contrast to general media reporting.

Analysts (outside Western media where every country should be a democracy, regardless) are speculating as to why Syria isn't falling to demands for democracy in the overwhelming fashion experienced by Egypt and Libya. There seems to be support by a majority of the Syrian general public for the current Syrian government, far more so than the seemingly minority of rebels in specific neighborhoods.

Any local insight on the scope of rebellion outside activist emotion supported by Western media? I get curious when media reports of 'massacres' are rebels killed when attacking armed government forces and government attacking specific neighborhoods. The Arab League still hasn't condemned current Syrian government, stating it believes resolution is possible, which is also interesting.

[shekib82]

Welcome to the forum.

My news regarding Syria is limited to Western Media and blogs facilitated by Al Jazerra. What I'm reading in blogs is a contrast to general media reporting.

Analysts (outside Western media where every country should be a democracy, regardless) are speculating as to why Syria isn't falling to demands for democracy in the overwhelming fashion experienced by Egypt and Libya. There seems to be support by a majority of the Syrian general public for the current Syrian government, far more so than the seemingly minority of rebels in specific neighborhoods.

Any local insight on the scope of rebellion outside activist emotion supported by Western media? I get curious when media reports of 'massacres' are rebels killed when attacking armed government forces and government attacking specific neighborhoods. The Arab League still hasn't condemned current Syrian government, stating it believes resolution is possible, which is also interesting.

The way I understand things, Assad has some support in the country, maybe half or a little less supports him. But that is besides the point. If he has broad support why not conduct an election and keep power democratically.

[MeMyselfAndI]

The way I understand things, Assad has some support in the country, maybe half or a little less supports him. But that is besides the point. If he has broad support why not conduct an election and keep power democratically.

What I understand is, Assad's people, the Alawaites; as well as Syrian Christians; all support him, because they are afraid of what would happen if the Sunnis took over. Remembering Iraq and what is happening there now, I can certainly sympathise with that sentiment.

[shekib82]

:shrug:What I understand is, Assad's people, the Alawaites; as well as Syrian Christians; all support him, because they are afraid of what would happen if the Sunnis took over. Remembering Iraq and what is happening there now, I can certainly sympathise with that sentiment.

Well not just them but all minorities in Syria. But he also has some Sunni support. Anyway, I think that the people should vote for who they want.

[Americano]

The way I understand things, Assad has some support in the country, maybe half or a little less supports him. But that is besides the point. If he has broad support why not conduct an election and keep power democratically.

I'd think the results of attempting democratic government by Afghanistan, Egypt, Iraq and Libya would make any leader with national support apprehensive about doing it to his/her country.

[NickKIELCEPoland]

the Russians and the Chinese are standing against the democratic rights of the Syrian people.

Hardly surprising. Putin is against the democratic rights of the Russian people.

[shekib82]

I'd think the results of attempting democratic government by Afghanistan, Egypt, Iraq and Libya would make any leader with national support apprehensive about doing it to his/her country.

The people should elect their leaders. The people should be lead by the people. I think Assad's reason is that he would lose the election.

[Americano]

The people should elect their leaders. The people should be lead by the people. I think Assad's reason is that he would lose the election.

I favor stability over chaos. If people are unable to improve their lot in existing circumstances it's doubtful that an ideological change in government would offer any solution. Changing the reins of power seldom accomplishes anything positive for the masses (the people). .

[shekib82]

I favor stability over chaos. If people are unable to improve their lot in existing circumstances it's doubtful that an ideological change in government would offer any solution. Changing the reins of power seldom accomplishes anything positive for the masses (the people). .

this is not true, democracy brings prosperity with it. Furthermore, the Assad regime has been engaging in regressive anti-western policies that have hampered the economic prosperity of his country and people.

[pramjockey]

MM&I,

How many civilians does Assad have to kill before you'd stop supporting him? The death toll is over 5000 now. Would 10,000 be enough? 50,000? 100,000?

[MeMyselfAndI]

MM&I,

How many civilians does Assad have to kill before you'd stop supporting him? The death toll is over 5000 now. Would 10,000 be enough? 50,000? 100,000?

I did not say I support him. I said I understand the feelings of the Alawaites and Christians in Syria. Again, may I remind you of Iraq? After Saddam was ejected, most of Iraq's Christian population was either murdered or expelled; same for Jewish population; and Sunnis and Shiites are slaughtering each other still.

[pramjockey]

I did not say I support him. I said I understand the feelings of the Alawaites and Christians in Syria. Again, may I remind you of Iraq? After Saddam was ejected, most of Iraq's Christian population was either murdered or expelled; same for Jewish population; and Sunnis and Shiites are slaughtering each other still.

My apologies, I misinterpreted the thread title "This is why we support Assad" as your saying you support Assad.

Iraq is not Syria, and I'm not suggesting that the US go in to Syria. But, I wouldn't suggest that we should sell them bullets to use on their own population, either.

[MeMyselfAndI]

My apologies, I misinterpreted the thread title "This is why we support Assad" as your saying you support Assad.

Iraq is not Syria, and I'm not suggesting that the US go in to Syria. But, I wouldn't suggest that we should sell them bullets to use on their own population, either.

Oh, I agree. I do not think Russia should have involved itself there either... It is all about that damn naval base at Tartus... :shrug:

[pramjockey]

Oh, I agree. I do not think Russia should have involved itself there either... It is all about that damn naval base at Tartus... :shrug:

Yeah, kind of like the USA's double-standard on Qatar.

I'm so sick of "leaders" who don't have an ounce of integrity. Nauseating.