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Michael
Nov 14th 2011, 06:05 PM
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Black Metal Nation: How Norway Spawned The World’s Most Violent Rightwing Metalheads

My idea of a Norwegian was always some cheerless Social Democrat in a knit sweater whose greatest joy in life was comparing the price of beer in Prague (cheap) to the price of beer in Krakow (even cheaper). Then I read the just-released new edition of Lords of Chaos: The Bloody Rise of the Satanic Metal Underground, a cult classic that first appeared in 1998.

Dude. No, seriously. Du-hu-huuude! All I can say is that Norway fuckiiin’ rocks!

Lords of Chaos chronicles the rise of Black Metal, Norway’s extremist contribution to the underground metal scene in the late 80s and early 90s. What made Black Metal so exceptional wasn’t just the speed and thrash of the music, the violence of the lyrics or the amount of corpse-paint that its death-obsessed members wore, but rather the number of real corpses and smoldering churches that the movement left behind.

The rise of the Black Metal movement in Norway is a case of humorless dirtheads taking a joke way too seriously.

Source (http://exiledonline.com/black-metal-nation-how-norway-spawned-the-worlds-most-violent-rightwing-metalheads/)

Nothing earth-shattering here, just an oddball slice of sociology.

One thing that was interesting, was the way the article mentioned that Monty Python's Life of Brian was banned in Norway for being too offensive. How that can be considered offensive - and this death metal crap not offensive is beyond me. :shrug:

MeMyselfAndI
Nov 14th 2011, 11:36 PM
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Source (http://exiledonline.com/black-metal-nation-how-norway-spawned-the-worlds-most-violent-rightwing-metalheads/)

Nothing earth-shattering here, just an oddball slice of sociology.

One thing that was interesting, was the way the article mentioned that Monty Python's Life of Brian was banned in Norway for being too offensive. How that can be considered offensive - and this death metal crap not offensive is beyond me. :shrug:

lol Yes we have that too. There's that goth-punk rock group Korol i Shut
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They are even accused of Satanism by the Church, because of certain symbols they use
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http://mors.sibnet.ru/upload/imgarticlebig/1289963591.jpg

But young people love them
http://mors.sibnet.ru/upload/imgarticlebig/1289963554.jpg
http://mors.sibnet.ru/upload/imgarticlebig/1289963597.jpg

They are ones who started the whole punk subculture in Russia...
http://www.popsakal.ru/info/sub/punk3.jpghttp://kids.amur.net/index2.php?option=com_main_ajax&task=img&type=width&width=485&num_img=8&id=1118http://www.oboi-jpeg.ru/Category/Subculture/image/640_480/punk/www.oboi-jpeg.ru_Subculture_punk_%20%2811%29.jpg

Actually, youth these days has so many strange "subcultures". The weirdest one yet are the Upyri ("Bloodsuckers")
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Wear make up on face, with some sort of markings; engage in Satanist rituals; and drink blood, hence the name.

Orthodox Church youth groups, ones I showed in the other thread; among others, are fighting against this.

http://www.rons.ru/shabash.htm
Dozens of Orthodox youths disrupt "Satanist celebration" (a party held by, if I had to guess, some of those "dark" subcultures: goth, emo, upyri) at Eastern Studies Institute in Moscow. About 40-50 "activists" shouting "Glory to Orthodox Russia!", "Glory to Christ, death to Antichrist!", "Death to Satanists!", etc, stormed the building, first fighting with eight guards outside, pushing through them and bursting inside through the front door. They pelted the party goers with rotten eggs and tomatoes, and beat up several.

Later, on their way back, they encounter another group of goths or such on the road nearby, and chased them away, beating them.

:lol:

Donkey
Nov 14th 2011, 11:50 PM
Why is that funny? That's fascism.

NickKIELCEPoland
Nov 15th 2011, 12:36 AM
Why is that funny? That's fascism.
Reading between MeMyselfandI's many lines, I gather humour in Russia = someone else suffering.

Michael, Life of Brian was only banned in Norway when it first came out, in the 1970s. It was later shown in cinemas, with the explanation that it wasn't necessarily about Jesus, since crucifixions were common in Jerusalem in the film's setting period. During the ban, Swedish cinemas (Norway and Sweden make friendly jokes about each other) advertised the film as The film which is so funny that it is banned in Norway.;)

MeMyselfAndI
Nov 15th 2011, 01:07 AM
Why is that funny? That's fascism.

Reading between MeMyselfandI's many lines, I gather humour in Russia = someone else suffering.

It made me laugh, because of the irony: the way those Church youth groups chase after non-conformist subcultures now, is exactly like Communist Youth did, in the Soviet days. Yet, they hate the Communists :shrug:

I guess I should have explained that, I'm sorry.

NickKIELCEPoland
Nov 15th 2011, 01:12 AM
It made me laugh, because of the irony: the way those Church youth groups chase after non-conformist subcultures now, is exactly like Communist Youth did, in the Soviet days. Yet, they hate the Communists :shrug:

I guess I should have explained that, I'm sorry.
MeMyselfandI, the reason had this impression of Russian humour, was that a long time ago, you told me something about some Cossack in Moscow who had demanded extra money to enter some museum, or something (he worked as a guard at the museum). Can you remember that? When I asked why you thought it was funny, you said that this was Russian humour ;)

calgaryimmigrati
May 9th 2012, 06:50 AM
love looking at the pictures..
well, not all boys can wear eyeliner in public..
and i like your music :)