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MeMyselfAndI
Jun 13th 2011, 08:10 PM
Was just watching a show about religious sects in Russia. In particular, they talked about the so-called Church of the Chosen. It was started 20 years ago by a former policeman named Sergei Torop, who now calls himself Father Vissarion and declared himself to be the new incarnation of Jesus Christ.
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This... community, I guess we will call them, has over two thousand members now, and is based deep in rural Siberia. Thier main doctrine is that in 6 years or so, this world as we know it will end, "God's wrath will fall upon sinful humanity" and only ones who will be spared will be the members of this sect.
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Probably the most famous member of the sect (besides, of course, Father Vissarion himself), is Svetlana Vladimirskaya
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10 years ago, she was a well-known pop singer. Her 'My Boy' was a hit, country-wide. It was a media sensation, when she quit her soaring career and moved off to Siberia to join this sect. But, apparently, she is happy there. It is there that she found her husband, an artist and fellow sect member, Evgeny Korniltsev


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Now they are raising four beautiful children together
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(here with Evgeny's parents, also members of the sect)

Svetlana today mostly performs for the sect, and, sometimes, goes on 'tours' of neighboring villages. They do love her. She is also a sort of spokeswoman for the sect, using her fame to promote the sect, appearing on TV, in shows where they talk about religion and sects, and constantly refuting any bad claims about the sect.

Father Vissarion, meanwhile, has become a wealthy man. Although he, like all members of his community, maintains a simple, ascetic lifestyle, it is said he has millions of dollars in different Swiss banks. Also, one would think that the community's extensive security team must be well-paid (10 big, black SUVs with tanned windows patrol around the village. Strongly build men in suits have also been seen following, and apparently guarding, Father Vissarion himself and his wife and five children. It is assumed they are armed).

The members of the sect believe Vissarion's every word
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In daily conversation, they refer to their leader as 'Uchitel' ('Teacher'). They worship him, absolutely. I think if he'd told all of them to end their lives right this moment, they would do that, without hesitation.

I simply do not understand it. How can one man hold such power over 2000 people?

MeMyselfAndI
Jun 13th 2011, 08:50 PM
I think he is a narcissistic sort of man, he likes people paying attention to him, looking up to him like that. But I also think he must have some kind of psychological, hypnotic abilities, just to control his followers the way he does.

Here is a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y9FYQ3TnB8

Svetlana Vladimirskaya about their City of Sun (that is what the sect calls the town where they all live).

It is all so strange. I mean... they call us, Old Way Orthodox, a sect lol

Donkey
Jun 13th 2011, 08:52 PM
I look more like the Poster Jesus than he does, so I refute his claims. :)

MeMyselfAndI
Jun 13th 2011, 08:53 PM
I look more like the Poster Jesus than he does, so I refute his claims. :)

You should start your own sect then :) You'll definately find many followers in Russia. People here are so eager to believe in these things...

Donkey
Jun 13th 2011, 11:34 PM
In daily conversation, they refer to their leader as 'Uchitel' ('Teacher'). They worship him, absolutely. I think if he'd told all of them to end their lives right this moment, they would do that, without hesitation.

I simply do not understand it. How can one man hold such power over 2000 people?

Wouldn't be the first time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown

MeMyselfAndI
Jun 13th 2011, 11:59 PM
Wouldn't be the first time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown

Indeed... It's brainwashing.

Their main cathedral
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As you can see, they do, literaly, worship him.

nanacat
Jun 14th 2011, 05:24 PM
I'm wary of any group who regards themselves as "chosen." Carl Sandberg once pondered that the ugliest word in the whole dictionary is exclusive.

Americano
Jun 14th 2011, 08:26 PM
I'm wary of any group who regards themselves as "chosen." Carl Sandberg once pondered that the ugliest word in the whole dictionary is exclusive.

Exclusivity always has a price. Absolute devotion to a claimed supernatural representative, or any representative, seems rather stiff and mindless.

Michael
Jun 14th 2011, 08:30 PM
I'm wary of any group who regards themselves as "chosen." Carl Sandberg once pondered that the ugliest word in the whole dictionary is exclusive.

:goodpost:

JHC
Jun 21st 2011, 02:44 AM
You should start your own sect then :) You'll definately find many followers in Russia. People here are so eager to believe in these things...

Eager or desperate?

I wonder what would happen if he came out one day with a new haircut, a pair of expensive sunglasses, and an Armani suit. What kind of stories would they have to tell themselves in order to continue believing?

And I bet they would too.