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MeMyselfAndI
Apr 8th 2011, 01:54 PM
FSB wants to ban Gmail, Hotmail and SkypeRussia's security services propose banning Gmail, Hotmail and Skype over encryption worries. The Information Ministry says that probably won't happen.


Miriam ElderApril 8, 2011 07:28

What is going on with Russia’s Internet? It feels like someone is trying to work out a strategy. Thus far, Russia has avoided the Great Firewall like China, preferring to deploy cyber attackers and teams of roving commenters to shut down discussion.

That’s not how the FSB would have it. According to Ilya Massukh, the deputy head of the Information Ministry, the FSB has proposed shutting access to Gmail, Hotmail and Skype.

“For example, access to Gmail from the side of the security service organs is currently unregulated,” he said.

Alexander Andreyechkin, the head of the FSB’s center for information protection and special communications, explained the thinking of the KGB successor agency at a government commission on federal communications Friday.

“Lately, the problem of using general cryptographic encryption – first and foremost, of foreign origin – in the networks has caused increasing concern for the FSB,” Alexander Andreyechkin, the head of the FSB’s center for information protection and special communications, said Friday. “This, in particular, concerns services such as Gmail, Hotmail and Skype.”

“The uncontrolled use of such servers can bring a massive security threat to Russia,” he said, state run news agency RIA Novosti reported.

Massukh said intense discussions were held and the outcome was the decision to create a working group to discuss the question of how Russia should deal with encrypted information. They’ll come up with an answer by October 1.

“We probably won’t restrict citizens in a technological way,” Massukh said. “The position of the Information Ministry is that citizens shouldn’t be forbidden anything, especially the Internet.”

Why formally forbid – and face the huge criticism China does – when you can simply deploy hackers and bots instead?

Two years ago, Russia’s chief business lobby proposed banning Skype on the grounds that the Internet telephone service poses a threat to Russian business and national security. Many Russian opposition activists and human rights workers only agree to speak over Skype, since it’s believed the FSB can’t listen in.



http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/bric-yard/fsb-wants-ban-gmail-hotmail-and-skype

I fear, very much... FSB may just get their way with this, they are very powerful now.

Zarquon
Apr 8th 2011, 04:29 PM
That is ridiculous.
But so is this (http://www.eg.ru/daily/melochi/25005/).

MeMyselfAndI
Apr 8th 2011, 04:56 PM
That is ridiculous.
But so is this (http://www.eg.ru/daily/melochi/25005/).

lol Nashi girls.
http://animalnewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/28.jpg

Michael
Apr 8th 2011, 05:56 PM
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/bric-yard/fsb-wants-ban-gmail-hotmail-and-skype

I fear, very much... FSB may just get their way with this, they are very powerful now.

The problem with the net is that it is very difficult to censor/control. The essential design of the net was meant to be able to survive nuclear attack (the internet originates from the US military ARPNET program which still forms a major part of the internet backbone to this day).

Donkey
Apr 8th 2011, 07:09 PM
The problem with the net is that it is very difficult to censor/control. The essential design of the net was meant to be able to survive nuclear attack (the internet originates from the US military ARPNET program which still forms a major part of the internet backbone to this day).
And it seems increasingly so. The web is literally everywhere now. It's not just coming in through your phone line. Why is there no science fiction story about the internet becoming sentient yet? :)

Michael
Apr 8th 2011, 07:33 PM
And it seems increasingly so. The web is literally everywhere now. It's not just coming in through your phone line. Why is there no science fiction story about the internet becoming sentient yet? :)

Terminator.

Donkey
Apr 8th 2011, 07:37 PM
Terminator.
Really? The first one?

I've never seen any of them... That was made, what, in the late eighties? Did they get the progression of the internet right?

MeMyselfAndI
Apr 8th 2011, 08:06 PM
Terminator.

I think the Matrix works better for this one.

Michael
Apr 8th 2011, 08:49 PM
Really? The first one?

I've never seen any of them... That was made, what, in the late eighties? Did they get the progression of the internet right?

First Terminator is 1984. :erm:

They don't specifically have "the internet" but they do have "Skynet" and it grew out of some traffic monitoring system in California. Basically, the damn thing becomes sentient and takes over the internet and then starts spawning robot warriors to control the planet.

Michael
Apr 8th 2011, 08:51 PM
I think the Matrix works better for this one.
Matrix (1999) comes out after the internet had become part of popular culture.

NickKIELCEPoland
Apr 14th 2011, 09:47 AM
The problem with the net is that it is very difficult to censor/control. The essential design of the net was meant to be able to survive nuclear attack (the internet originates from the US military ARPNET program which still forms a major part of the internet backbone to this day).
:) :) :) Spoken like a true liberatian ;)

Michael
Apr 14th 2011, 05:37 PM
:) :) :) Spoken like a true liberatian ;)

If that's meant to be sarcasm, it sounds like you are misinterpreting my statement.

NickKIELCEPoland
Apr 15th 2011, 01:44 AM
Oooops, my mistake (blushes)
I'd had a long day;)

Michael
Apr 15th 2011, 05:56 PM
Oooops, my mistake (blushes)
I'd had a long day;)

No problem. You are new and might not be aware that I have several thousand posts at this forum that attest to the fact that I'm a hardcore supporter of liberty on principle and generally oppose anything that is anti-liberty.