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Michael
Oct 15th 2010, 12:01 PM
French Reform Plans Spark More Industrial Unrest

PARIS (Dow Jones)--France remained torn by industrial action Friday, with workers at oil terminals in the port of Marseille striking for the 19th day and high-speed rail services suffering continued disruption after a partial walkout by rail staff.

The industrial unrest comes after a general strike and nationwide demonstration Tuesday against plans to reform the French pension system, and more protests are planned for the weekend and in the coming week.

On the railway, 15% of workers at state-owned SNCF stayed home Friday. But the Paris Metro was running virtually normally gradually returning to normal after larger disruptions Tuesday, according to transport operator RATP.

The government of President Nicolas Sarkozy plans to raise the minimum retirement age to 62 from the current 60 and to up the age at which the French can retire with guaranteed full entitlements to 67 from 65. The government has insisted the pension reform is vital to restoring the health of the country's budget.

The pension measures have already passed the lower house of Parliament and await a vote Wednesday in the Senate.

Unions have called for a nationwide demonstration Saturday to allow for turnout from a higher number of people, including families and private-sector workers. Another general strike and nationwide demonstration is planned for Tuesday in advance of the Senate vote.

Increased turnout in Tuesday's protests "confirms growing opposition from workers to an unjust and ineffective reform that worsens inequalities without ensuring the sustainability of the pension system," the main unions said in a joint statement Thursday.

As many as 3.5 million people participated in Tuesday's demonstrations, according to unions, but the interior ministry put the figure at more than 1 million.

By either reckoning, the number of protesters has been growing. Unions said roughly 3 million people took part in a previous demonstration Sept. 23, while police said the number fell short of 1 million.
Source (http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20101015-708727.html)

Looks like Sarkozy has his hands full with this issue. The people apparently are adamant that the official retirement age must remain at 60. No mention of how the French State is supposed to pay for this. I have a hard time believing that these same strikers would support the large tax increases needed to fund this policy (let alone to pay for current policies which are presently funded by debt-financing).

In this respect, this issue is vaguely similar to the political unrest in the USA - where people are demanding tax-cuts and spending cuts, but at the same time insisting that 98% of government spending programs are untouchable. All this while the USA faces the most massive and record setting deficits over $1 trillion per year.

Personally, I find it very disturbing that the vast majority of voters across most western countries are entirely comfortable about demanding services NOW but insisting that the cost of paying for that service MUST be put on one's grandchildren. I consider this policy to be generally dispicable. I don't care how much you want to retire at age 60 - please tell my why your grandchildren and great-grandchilren yet unborn ought to forced to pay for your early retirement?

The Drunk Guy
Oct 15th 2010, 02:31 PM
Your comparison to the problem in the US belies your bias. I reject it.

Americano
Oct 15th 2010, 07:46 PM
Your comparison to the problem in the US belies your bias. I reject it.

What's the difference?

The Drunk Guy
Oct 15th 2010, 07:54 PM
What's the difference?
Typical westerner. How can someone possibly compare France to any nation outside of Europe? Your feeble minds cannot truly process the majesty of the people of the fleur!

Americano
Oct 15th 2010, 08:19 PM
Typical westerner. How can someone possibly compare France to any nation outside of Europe? Your feeble minds cannot truly process the majesty of the people of the fleur!

When it comes to funding their retirement program the flower is wilting.

Michael
Oct 16th 2010, 10:33 AM
Your comparison to the problem in the US belies your bias. I reject it.

:lol:

Become a French nationalist have you?

Michael
Oct 21st 2010, 09:18 AM
http://www.newsweek.com/content/newsweek/2010/10/20/operation-escargot-flashballs-and-carla/_jcr_content/body/image.img.jpg/1287617961805.jpg

Operation Escargot, Flashballs, and Carla!
French protests have a language all their own.

The strikes, demonstrations, slowdowns, and minor riots that have rocked France continue, as the French government moved early Wednesday morning to break through blockades of oil refineries and help get fuel to thousands of service stations that had run out of gas. Although buses and subways are operating almost normally, long-distance trains and air traffic have been badly disrupted. In a few highly publicized incidents, small groups of young men looking for trouble on the edges of the protests have clashed with police. The demonstrations have sent millions of citoyens to the streets over the last six weeks and have gained momentum as widespread discontent with the administration of President Nicolas Sarkozy has coalesced around specific opposition to his efforts at pension reform. But as a matter of fact, whenever the French are fed up with a government or its policies, they fall back on their deep—and sometime revolutionary—impulse to “go to the streets.” What follows is a glossary of words and phrases that you’ll hear on those streets today, including the deeply Gallic Opération Escargot.

Newsweek Article (http://www.newsweek.com/2010/10/20/operation-escargot-flashballs-and-carla.html)

If nothing else, France sure does like their political theater on the streets.

What does strike me about this issue is the pure emotional reaction of it all. It just seems like people are pissed off and throwing a trantrum.

I suspect that if Sarkozy proposed some big tax hikes in order to fund the existing retirement age policy at 60 (what these protestors supposedly want), we'd be seeing the exact same strikes against those tax hikes.

That is to say, I see no coherence here - much like the teaparty set - there doesn't seem to be much coherence to their policy. They are just mad as hell.