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MeMyselfAndI
Aug 27th 2010, 03:32 PM
A ‘Kondopoga at the gates of Moscow’

Following a clash between gastarbeiters from Central Asia and ethnic Russian residents on Saturday night, residents of the city of Kalyazin, some 150 kilometers from Moscow, assembled on Monday and demanded that all non-Russians leave the town, something that appears to have occurred, leading to the suspension of construction work.

Even though details about what has occurred remain sketchy and in dispute – most information derives from blogs rather than the local media -- these events because they are taking place so close to the Russian capital are already being compared to the clashes in Kondopoga in Karelia in 2006, although the fallout from these events may prove even greater.

According to both the local media and blogs, “the conflict began over a girl” when at a Kalyazin bar on Saturday night, “gastarbeiters attempted to rape a local resident,” prompting “local youths to come her defense” and leading the gastarbeiters to shout “Death to Russians!” That in turn led to the burning of gastarbeiter cars (www.rus-obr.ru/days/7663 (http://www.rus-obr.ru/days/7663)).

Several people were taken to the hospital, and the authorities both attempted to play down the clash as nothing more than “a drunken fight” and called in OMON units to try to restore order. But instead of calming the situation, these efforts had the opposite effect, leading to a large meeting in the city on Monday.

That meeting demanded that “all citizens of the near abroad” be expelled from the Kalyazin district, and according to some accounts, both the passion and the timing of these demands were linked to the fact that many parents are fearful about the security of their children on the streets now that school is about to begin.

City and district officials eventually showed up at the session, although there were complaints that they did not come quickly. On the one hand, they sought to reassure the residents that their city was “tense but calm” and that rumors to the contrary were “black PR” intended to destroy the image of the district.

But on the other, some of them sought to shift responsibility for what had happened to local contractors who had employed the gastarbeiters, even though most of the construction projects are controlled by the city and even though these officials denied that the clashes had anything to do with ethnicity or nationality.

Sergey Bitov, the head of the city, released online a curious statement in which he tried to calm the residents. He noted that much that is being said about Kalyazin is “distorted” and that “in any conflict, only one side will not be guilty.” And he added that he personally has “many friends among Armenians, Azerbaijanis, and Georgians.”

Moreover, Bitov continued, “not so long ago at the Lion [bar] where Saturday’s clashes occurred, “a Russian killed a Russian, but this was of no interest to those who write on the Internet … and all were silent. The city head called on residents to show good sense and recognize that “people are people regardless of the color of their skin or the shape of their eyes.”

Bitov’s statement, however, only added fuel to the fire. Some local residents were upset by his suggestion that Russians bore some responsibility for what happened, and others were outraged by what they said was official “protection” for the gastarbeiters, who thus were given to understand that they could behave as they like.

One blogger complained that “the administration can never allow that the conflict would be recognized as one between nationalities. Then, heads in the local MVD and the Administration would roll. Therefore,” he said, “ the administration does everything it can to show that this [clash] was an ordinary one,” something no one else believes.

As of last night, it appears that all the gastarbeiters have left the Kalyazin district. Their houses and apartments are empty, some of which have had their windows broken. Some of their animals are wandering about. And work at the construction sites where they had been employed has stopped.

It came to light last night that Kalyazin officials have been worried about the possibility of ethnic clashes there at least for the last several weeks. On August 12th, the administration of the Kalyazin district held a meeting on how to cope with “the temporary presence of foreign citizens” there (svpressa.ru/society/article/29435/).

That meeting in fact may even have intensified local anger because the officials taking part in it stated bluntly that “from the operational reports of the militia we learn about cases of theft both in residences and on the streets and about violations of public order at night” by the gastarbeiters from Central Asia and the Caucasus.

Paul Goble

http://social.moldova.org/news/a-kondopoga-at-the-gates-of-moscow-211858-eng.html (http://social.moldova.org/news/a-kondopoga-at-the-gates-of-moscow-211858-eng.html)

According to this:

<Locals begin working on Kolyazin construction sites>

http://tver.kp.ru/online/news/726936/ (http://tver.kp.ru/online/news/726936/)

They are now hiring locals, and ethnic Russians from elsewhere, to work in the city.

So, hey, Arizona is not so bad, eh? But, seriously, this is how a government protects and insures racism.

For the record, the Central Asian guest workers did not rape anyone. Locals spread that rumour to get more men riled up to fight with them. It started when two drunk Uzbek boys got in a pizzing match with two equally drunk local young men. A bottle was thrown, punches were exchanged. Both sides went for back up. That is how it started.

Americano
Aug 31st 2010, 10:46 AM
I keep waiting for posters who want undocumented workers kept out of the US economy to support Russian actions.

MeMyselfAndI
Aug 31st 2010, 01:47 PM
I keep waiting for posters who want undocumented workers kept out of the US economy to support Russian actions.

Racism is everywhere, sadly... here, unfortunately, it is particularly bad. The guest workers from Central Asia are targeted constantly. Media focus on violent crimes committed by gastarbaiters, while underreporting crime by native population. An Uzbek man steals some food from a street kiosk, because he does not have money to eat, they scream about it; gang of Slavic youth break into an apartment, beat up the owner, rob the place, at gun point, maybe some local newspaper mentions it, on the back page. As a result they are stereotyped as criminals, drug dealers, rapists. When a Kyrgyz guy comes up to a Russian girl and introduces himself, already people jump on him, hit him, and chase him away, because they figure he wants to sexually assault her...

And people go and attack them, beat them up, because 'they are stealing our jobs'. Even though the kind of jobs they do (cleaning toilets, picking trash off streets, menial work on construction sites) for the kind of payment (about $5 for 12 hours of work), nobody else wants to do.

Skinheads and other nationalists and racists prey on them regularly too. Not long ago a skinhead gang kidnapped two Uzbek men and cut their heads off. Made a video of it. It was on Youtibe for awhile, been removed now. Police don't help them much, they are illegals. In Russia, if you don't have passport, you are not a person.

Americano
Aug 31st 2010, 09:35 PM
Racism is everywhere, sadly... here, unfortunately, it is particularly bad. The guest workers from Central Asia are targeted constantly. Media focus on violent crimes committed by gastarbaiters, while underreporting crime by native population. An Uzbek man steals some food from a street kiosk, because he does not have money to eat, they scream about it; gang of Slavic youth break into an apartment, beat up the owner, rob the place, at gun point, maybe some local newspaper mentions it, on the back page. As a result they are stereotyped as criminals, drug dealers, rapists. When a Kyrgyz guy comes up to a Russian girl and introduces himself, already people jump on him, hit him, and chase him away, because they figure he wants to sexually assault her...

And people go and attack them, beat them up, because 'they are stealing our jobs'. Even though the kind of jobs they do (cleaning toilets, picking trash off streets, menial work on construction sites) for the kind of payment (about $5 for 12 hours of work), nobody else wants to do.

Skinheads and other nationalists and racists prey on them regularly too. Not long ago a skinhead gang kidnapped two Uzbek men and cut their heads off. Made a video of it. It was on Youtibe for awhile, been removed now. Police don't help them much, they are illegals. In Russia, if you don't have passport, you are not a person.

In the US those who practice racism have long considered themselves as Real Americans, all the way back to our founding fathers who valued black slaves as 3/5th of a vote cast by their owners. Our nationalists discard any insinuation of racism, attributing responsibility for perceived undesirable immigrant or minority actions to government entitlement programs, 'dumb' (pick a color or nationality) and/or lack of law enforcement. Women are now allowed to vote and own property.

The US government has long frothed at the mouth with desire for a national identity card, preferably with a real time embedded transmitting and receiving chip to expand the US tech GDP contribution, of course. I'd be scholastically curious as to the qualifications for obtaining a Russian Passport. In particular, is a child of immigrants born in Russia considered a Russian citizen regardless of parental nationality or residency status?

Michael
Sep 1st 2010, 09:00 AM
... I'd be scholastically curious as to the qualifications for obtaining a Russian Passport. In particular, is a child of immigrants born in Russia considered a Russian citizen regardless of parental nationality or residency status?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

Russia is not on the list.

Brazil, Canada, Mexico and USA have the law of jus soli. Not many other countries do.

Australia, UK and France previously had jus soli, but now have limitations or modifications of the law.

That's about it (other than a bunch of countries that no one ever immigrates to).

MeMyselfAndI
Sep 1st 2010, 03:00 PM
I'd be scholastically curious as to the qualifications for obtaining a Russian Passport. In particular, is a child of immigrants born in Russia considered a Russian citizen regardless of parental nationality or residency status?

I believe that a child born to an immigrant family in Russia would become a Russian citizen if, by the time the child is born, the parents have attained citizenship as well.

It's all political... In regions of the former Soviet Union that Russia wants to control, like South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Pridnestrovie, Crimea it is very easy to get Russian citizenship. In the first three, there are trucks on the street where passports are handed out to all who wants them; and in the Crimea you can go to the Russian Black Sea Fleet base and get a passport there, despite Ukrainian government's protests. On the other hand, people migrating from Central Asian Republics, even ethnic Russians, wait for many years for their citizenship...

Americano
Sep 1st 2010, 09:08 PM
I believe that a child born to an immigrant family in Russia would become a Russian citizen if, by the time the child is born, the parents have attained citizenship as well.

It's all political... In regions of the former Soviet Union that Russia wants to control, like South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Pridnestrovie, Crimea it is very easy to get Russian citizenship. In the first three, there are trucks on the street where passports are handed out to all who wants them; and in the Crimea you can go to the Russian Black Sea Fleet base and get a passport there, despite Ukrainian government's protests. On the other hand, people migrating from Central Asian Republics, even ethnic Russians, wait for many years for their citizenship...

Much the same here in the US with a far lower degree of racist violence. We've done that. The US and other nations have long subscribed to immigration policy based on economic and political requirements as perceived by those in charge. A crippled economy here with high unemployment and failing revenues provided racists an opportunity to express themselves. If acceptable economic conditions were prevalent those racists would be far too occupied with upgrading their lifestyles to be concerned with immigration.