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MeMyselfAndI
Jun 29th 2010, 11:10 PM
Izvor (also known as 'Brown Bear Style') is an ancient martial art practiced by Northern Russians, from Tver to my home, Arkhangelsk. It was developed by the Old Believers to defend themselves against New Orthodox Christian persecution.
It is not beautiful or such, because it is not meant for show; but effectiveness, to take opponent down and out, fast. Today, it is taught to Druzhina (citizen militia) in Tver, Saint Petersburg, Ptrozavodsk, Murmansk, Archangelsk, and all the smaller towns and villages in the North-West. It is also taught to Specnaz units from those regions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfBMJwCbEHg
http://rusvoin.msk.ru/spetsn3.jpg
Multiplum
Jun 30th 2010, 02:21 AM
Cool. It's the kind of stuff I kind of want to get into. Proper martial arts
... is not beautiful or such, because it is not meant for show; but effectiveness, to take opponent down and out, fast. Weak point for massive damage, that's the kind of stuff I want to learn. I was in the military for a short while (mandatory), and got into security after boot camp so I could relax as much as possible. A two-week training camp focused on techniques that work in close combat. A lot of focus on what points on the body to attack in order to incapacitate - if only to get an opportunity to get away. I didn't really learn anything, of course, and my only skill still is that I can run away pretty fast.
These guys are crazy. No bullshit, just straight out bad-assery.
Does this bear much resemblance to krav maga?
MeMyselfAndI
Jun 30th 2010, 01:19 PM
Cool. It's the kind of stuff I kind of want to get into. Proper martial arts
Weak point for massive damage, that's the kind of stuff I want to learn. I was in the military for a short while (mandatory), and got into security after boot camp so I could relax as much as possible. A two-week training camp focused on techniques that work in close combat. A lot of focus on what points on the body to attack in order to incapacitate - if only to get an opportunity to get away. I didn't really learn anything, of course, and my only skill still is that I can run away pretty fast.
These guys are crazy. No bullshit, just straight out bad-assery.
Does this bear much resemblance to krav maga?
There may be some similarities, since they were both developed in similar circamstances. Though, actually, the most it took was from its own archenemy: Cossack SPAS. Particularly the punching techniques. The Cossacks themselves borrowed a lot of their techniques from all over Europe and Asia, from Irish boxing to Shaolin Kung Fu, so, probably some of that in there too lol
So where are you, with mandatory military? Are you in Israel, that is why you know krav maga? I respect Tzahal... much smaller than Russian military, but, except for the 'special' units, which are on par, more or less; the quality is far, far superior.
Multiplum
Jul 1st 2010, 04:49 PM
There may be some similarities, since they were both developed in similar circamstances. Though, actually, the most it took was from its own archenemy: Cossack SPAS. Particularly the punching techniques. The Cossacks themselves borrowed a lot of their techniques from all over Europe and Asia, from Irish boxing to Shaolin Kung Fu, so, probably some of that in there too lol
So where are you, with mandatory military? Are you in Israel, that is why you know krav maga? I respect Tzahal... much smaller than Russian military, but, except for the 'special' units, which are on par, more or less; the quality is far, far superior.
Norwegian. Howdy neighbour! :wave:
I just saw some krav maga stuff on TV to be honest. Did some searching around, and some clubs are into that in the town I live in right now, so it is fairly widespread. I mean, obviously. This place is tiny.
MeMyselfAndI
Jul 1st 2010, 06:54 PM
Norwegian. Howdy neighbour! :wave:
I just saw some krav maga stuff on TV to be honest. Did some searching around, and some clubs are into that in the town I live in right now, so it is fairly widespread. I mean, obviously. This place is tiny.
Ah, Scandinavia.
The place that those of us in the North-West strive to, some day, be like, but, probably, never will be, with Putin's "different path to development" (there is a nice song about this "path in Russia": <<we are all on "the path", now if we could only find that "path">> :lol:)
Anyway, don't know if krav is taught over here. Back North, we have schools that teach Izvor, obviously; karate; judo; some, like... two, aikido. In the South, of course, there are also Cossack martial arts schools. In Siberia and the Far East, some kids like Kung Fu, there are some places now that teach it, also their native styles, the Mongol Khapsagai, practiced by Tyvans, Buryats, and also Kalmyks in North Caucasus; Sambo is also taught, of course; Systema (there are three Ryabko's, Kadochnikov's, both of those are mostly for military, Spcnaz, such; and the new one, taught by Andrei Karimov, Ryabko's student, now archenemy of his son, who says he stole some techniques or something. Karimov teaches to children, to common people, that is why he is more respected now than the Ryabkos or Kadochnikov. They are elitist. I think so too).
Actually, young people in Russia are more and more interested in martial arts. Russia has produced some of the world's best professional fighters, think Fedor Emelianenko. But, even on the common level. I think it is how we grow up. Here, you have to fight. For yourself, for your existence. Or, you will be stomped into the dirt. It is not a country for the weak...
Rob
Dec 20th 2010, 05:36 PM
Hi. :)
Has come across a forum and has found a branch about IZVOR.
I am practice in IZVOR and I live in Riga, Latvia. Here our site in English:
http://www.izvor.lv/en.html
Here collect some IZVOR video:
http://www.izvor.lv/files/video_e.html
Very soon in a network will be freely accessible the seminar which this year has passed in Riga and a seminar in the St.-Peters-burg. If interesting I will put the links.
Next year in Riga there will be a big seminar for some days on which there will arrive seniors of instructor IZVOR’s, different themes both with the weapon and will understand many without.
If to whom it is interesting - we will be glad you to see, with residing, etc. we will prompt, we will help.
I will be glad to answer questions if is. :)
Also - Russian martial arts Federation "IZVOR" will organize exit seminars.
As individual lessons are conducted.
Rob
Dec 23rd 2010, 06:30 PM
:thumbsup: IZVOR - Russian fighting art. A seminar 16 – 17.10.2010. The city of Riga, Latvia. Teacher Grudev Michael.
Seminar theme: «A personal security of citizens» - fight conducting in various situations and places, use of improvised subjects as the weapon and special application, opposition to several opponents.
«The punch technics» - drawing of blows from any positions, blows without scope keeping power, speed, seriality, blows in fight and in an orchestra, in a close premise and on any distance, various and variability, high speed.
«Special preparation» - instant attack and neutralization of the opponent, mental conditions in fight, detention and a convoy, profitability and rationality of actions, performance of fighting and special problems.
All studied material is taught by principles of Russian martial art.
:) Download - http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3328399
http://i11.fastpic.ru/big/2010/1221/4d/b30e6b5e816dc999ab9648a179ba234d.jpg
Rob
Dec 25th 2010, 05:55 PM
Video Roller for 6 min. :)
http://smotri.com/video/view/?id=v162653454fc
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3912750.html?v=e4d3372e046f78d32fc4815ee42b4ec8
Michael
Dec 28th 2010, 10:29 AM
Video Roller for 6 min. :)
http://smotri.com/video/view/?id=v162653454fc
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3912750.html?v=e4d3372e046f78d32fc4815ee42b4ec8
Wow! Those videos really help to explain what Izvor is. :)
Rob
Dec 30th 2010, 07:02 PM
That roller on youtube with other music. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDSp19ERVxE
Foto from this seminar:
http://www.izvor.lv/files/s/izvor/index.html
Michael
Jan 6th 2011, 01:33 PM
That roller on youtube with other music. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDSp19ERVxE
Foto from this seminar:
http://www.izvor.lv/files/s/izvor/index.html
So do you know if any of the UFC fighters are users of Izvor techniques?
MeMyselfAndI
Jan 11th 2011, 02:30 PM
So do you know if any of the UFC fighters are users of Izvor techniques?
Fedor Emelianenko, I think, uses some elements of Izvor, as well as other traditional Russian combat systems (and also boxing, Judo, and Sambo):
http://www.wallpaperdojo.com/images/people/Fedor_emelianenko_Mma_Wallpapers.jpg
Best MMA fighter in the world, tripple champion or something.
He is not in UFC yet though. They are still negotiating, Dana White personally.
His brother Alexander also
http://www.emelyanenko.com/images/wallpapers/ae2_1024.jpg
This guy is famous for his tattoos as well as for fighting. :D
Then, there is Sergei Kharitonov
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1/myrabem/sergei002ai2.jpg
He is former VDV (Airborne Troops), was fighting champion there, then fighting champion of Russian Armed Forces. Uses Tae-Kwon-Do, Muai Thai, and Karate; but heavily relies on VDV's Systema Kadochnikova, which is largely influenced by Northern Russian styles, including Izvor.
Kharitonov, I think, is in the UFC. Not sure though.
Michael
Jan 11th 2011, 03:14 PM
Fedor Emelianenko, I think, uses some elements of Izvor, as well as other traditional Russian combat systems (and also boxing, Judo, and Sambo):
...
He is not in UFC yet though. They are still negotiating, Dana White personally.
His brother Alexander also
...
This guy is famous for his tattoos as well as for fighting. :D
Then, there is Sergei Kharitonov
...
He is former VDV (Airborne Troops), was fighting champion there, then fighting champion of Russian Armed Forces. Uses Tae-Kwon-Do, Muai Thai, and Karate; but heavily relies on VDV's Systema Kadochnikova, which is largely influenced by Northern Russian styles, including Izvor.
Kharitonov, I think, is in the UFC. Not sure though.
I've always expected some Russians to show up in UFC, but surprisingly, I've not seen any yet. But I'm only aware of this stuff from seeing some UFC fights on tv in the last couple of years. I'm not knowledgeable about these martial arts and am only learning to observe the different techniques from seeing them.
I do think it would make the UFC thing much more impressive if it is open to all the biggest MMA stars around the world, since it looks like the UFC competition is going to become (if it isn't already) the highest profile MMA events on the planet.
Btw, UFC specifically just got 'permission' to stage such events in Canada starting January 1st, 2011 (prior to this time it was illegal).
Rob
Jan 11th 2011, 05:57 PM
I'll ask Michael Grudev, he personally trained many. But I do not know about the UFC, we are preparing for the street.
Tomorrow, will put to the network a little educational film 18.5 min. Russian martial art "Izvor". I hope to please. :)
Rob
Jan 12th 2011, 03:54 PM
IZVOR - Russian fighting art. Educational film 18:30 min. - Download. Demonstration training work against armed - a pistol, knife, chain, stick. Principles of punch techniques, attacks from any of the provisions punches without amplitude preserving power, speed, seriality, blows in a fight, freedom from seizures, efficiency and rationality of action. Principles of safe (non-traumatic) reduction, safe equipment from bumps on the wall. Federation of Russian martial arts Mstinsko-tveretskoy tradition " IZVOR". Record 2005.
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3366895
14:50 min. on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0alzRH7QmoI
Rob
Jan 13th 2011, 05:57 PM
Updated the IZVOR video section, new videos:
Demonstration performances, federation of Russian martial art "IZVOR", at the opening of the fight club "Russian Venice" in Vyshny Volochok, Russia 2005.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IhJfo6lQ90
Rob
Jan 20th 2011, 04:47 PM
Updated the IZVOR video section:
IZVOR - Russian martial art. Seminar Dec. 12. 2010, in St. Petersburg.
Federation of Russian martial art Mstinsko-tveretskoy tradition " IZVOR".
Impact Technology - beating out any provisions punches without amplitude preserving power, speed, seriality, blows in a battle in close quarters and at any distance, diversity and variability, high speed.
Teachers Michael Grudev and Valery Grigoriev.
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3381131
http://i15.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0120/49/c2e96da7905c466ab27032d9bbac4e49.jpg
Rob
Jan 21st 2011, 04:33 PM
January, 15-16th, Federation of Russian martial art "Izvor" held seminar to Nefteyugansk (60 km from Surgut, Russia). Teachers Michael Grudev and Valery Grigoriev. Photo report >>.
http://www.izvor.lv/files/s/nefteyugansk/index.html
http://www.izvor.lv/files/s/nefteyugansk/thumbnails/aau.jpg http://www.izvor.lv/files/s/nefteyugansk/thumbnails/aav.jpg http://www.izvor.lv/files/s/nefteyugansk/thumbnails/abu.jpg
http://www.izvor.lv/files/s/nefteyugansk/thumbnails/aeo.jpg http://www.izvor.lv/files/s/nefteyugansk/thumbnails/agv.jpg http://www.izvor.lv/files/s/nefteyugansk/thumbnails/aih.jpg
Rob
Jan 31st 2011, 08:26 AM
Seminar Russian martial art IZVOR - Nefteyugansk 2011 - Video report.
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3401035
http://i4.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0131/3d/6c76053aee867f788c9322e7e2aff93d.jpg
Rob
Feb 4th 2011, 06:03 PM
:) Seminar on 15-16 January 2011 Nefteyugansk. Russian martial art IZVOR treiler 7:44 min. :thumbsup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxLLqLhAcMY
Rob
Feb 8th 2011, 07:14 AM
:) Added a new video - Seminar Russian martial art IZVOR self defense. 23-24.05.2009.
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3415493 (http://u.to/jwS8)
http://i16.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0208/86/122b39c3c3a3363c270b8735e8063186.jpg
Rob
Feb 11th 2011, 10:07 AM
Pleased to announce the good news! :)
We invite you to take part in an international seminar on the Russian Martial Art "IZVOR", which will be held June 4-5, 2011, in Riga, Latvia.
Adults are invited to attend, as well as boys and girls at 14 years, at any level of fitness. Workshop topics
Shock technique:
Attacks of any provisions punches without amplitude preserving power, speed, seriality, blows in a fight and in the stalls, in close quarters and at any distance, diversity and variability, high speed.
Cricket:
Relief from seizures, use of force by the enemy against him, the withdrawal of the enemy off balance, painful effects on joints and suffocating.
Doing battle in different situations and locations:
In a confined space with limited visibility, with a limited degree of freedom in places where people fight with multiple opponents, the principles of movement.
Working with Arms:
use of weapons, as well as the materials at hand as a weapon.
Work against an armed (knife, stick, gun ...)
Protection technology in the attack:
from punches and kicks.
from seizures and any attempts to hold a reception, followed by counteractions.
Lower acrobatics:
Ability to fall onto a hard surface, flip-flops and rolls, fighting in the supine, sitting, etc.
Psychological preparation
Work with fears, mental state before the fight and during the battle.
Assessment of conflict, communication behavior and communication, as a senseless aggression opponent.
Line between loyalty and decisive action ...
Who rights, that and the winner is ...
Never show that you're afraid of it!
Teaching material based on the principles of Russian combat martial art, "IZVOR".
Seminar teachers: The President of the Federation Council, "IZVOR", a senior instructor Grudev Michael and senior instructor Fedorov Igor.
Our main task - to hold a workshop in a positive, friendly atmosphere so that participants not only improved their skill level, but also received good and enjoyable experience.
Foreign nationals and citizens from other cities, we will provide assistance in booking hotels. As well planned meals and transportation for the delivery of training at the venue.
On the first day - two sessions of 3 hours each with a break for lunch. After dinner, the evening conversation (by request).
On the second day - two sessions of 3 hours each with a break for lunch. After school, planned to organize a joint tour of Old Riga (optional).
The seminar costs 120 Euro. (Accommodation and meals are not included in the payment of the seminar.)
After the seminar, participants will be issued certificates Federation "IZVOR".
Past seminars you can watch or download on our website in the video section. >> (http://www.izvor.lv/files/video_e.html)
The seminar program >>
http://www.izvor.lv/files/riga2011en.html
Download invitation "*. doc" >>
http://www.izvor.lv/files/seminar.riga2011.en.izvor.doc
Rob
Apr 18th 2011, 10:23 AM
19-20th, February the Federation "IZVOR" held a seminar on Russian fighting art, in Gabrovo, Bulgaria. Video report - download >>
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3488291
trailers:
http://www.izvor.lv/files/video_e.html
17 April, Federation of Russian martial art "Izvor" held seminar in St. Pitersburg. Teachers Michael Grudev and Valery Grigoriev. Photo report >>
http://www.izvor.lv/files/s/17.04.11.piter/index.html
http://www.izvor.lv/files/s/17.04.11.piter/images/ahs.jpg
Rob
May 25th 2011, 05:12 AM
:) The remaining week before the seminar in Riga: :)
4-5 June 2011 a seminar on the Russian martial art in Riga, Latvia. Seminar program >> http://www.izvor.lv/files/riga2011en.html
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